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Old 03-17-2012, 06:13 AM
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Looking into reloading for my marlin in 35 Rem and I have read where neck sizing only will give you longer brass life in the 35. However, on the Lee site they do not recommend neck sizing only for reloading hunting ammo. I guess since the collet set doesn't provied a crimp. Wouldn't be ok if I were to neck size only, using brass from ammo fired in my rifle, and then use the factory crimp? Or is something special about a necked case in a lever gun. Thanks for any help.

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Old 03-17-2012, 06:54 AM
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Instead of neck sizing try this, I think it was Mike that posted this method.

Turn your sizing die dow to just about an 1/8th inch clearance between bottom of die and shelll holder. Now size a piece of brass, chamber it and pay attention to the effort it takes the bolt to chamber the brass. You should try the bolt with brass a couple times first. If it takes more effort to chamber with brass, then screw the die down another 1/8th turn and try again. Do this until you don't feel any added effort to chamber the brass. Do this process without a bullet seated.

Now you have brass that will always chamber but with minimum sizing. You can't beat this process. Beats neck sizing hands down.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:57 AM
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they do not recommend neck sizing only for reloading hunting ammo, I'm thinking because they may not chamber
if you FL re-size your brass will be fine

the 35 REM is not so hot as to kill brass early
just my 2 cents

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Old 03-17-2012, 08:10 AM
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I neck size my 35 Remington (and 30-30) brass all the time and have no problems. The 35Rem cartridge has a minimal shoulder and there is very little case stretching, compared to bottleneck cartridges. In most rifle brass, I anneal and full-length size after every fifth firing, but my 35Rem goes 12 firings before needing anything other than neck sizing. Until you get used to it, you can check every loaded round by chambering each. I do that when I'm making hunting loads as standard practice anyway - with all calibers, not just the 35.

The sizing dies have nothing to do with crimping the bullet, they're just sizing the case and neck to accept the bullet. You can use your seating die or, better yet, a Lee factory crimp die to add crimp in the final stage. If you're shooting a lever rifle, like a Marlin or WInchester, you want a fair amount of crimp so the bullets aren;t pushed back into the case while in the mag tube. Even with a bolt gun, there is the chance that when feeding the round into the chamber, the bullet could be pushed into the case, so if the neck isn;t grasping the bullet with substantial resistance, a little crimp is necessary.
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Instead of neck sizing try this, I think it was Mike that posted this method.

Turn your sizing die dow to just about an 1/8th inch clearance between bottom of die and shelll holder. Now size a piece of brass, chamber it and pay attention to the effort it takes the bolt to chamber the brass. You should try the bolt with brass a couple times first. If it takes more effort to chamber with brass, then screw the die down another 1/8th turn and try again. Do this until you don't feel any added effort to chamber the brass. Do this process without a bullet seated.

Now you have brass that will always chamber but with minimum sizing. You can't beat this process. Beats neck sizing hands down.
this is what I would do
what is going on is you only size as little of the case as needed, I would do this for my 243 BR Rem 700 I was to cheap to buy a neck sizing die an a old time told me to back the die out so you only size the neck
same thing

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Old 03-17-2012, 03:58 PM
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thanks for all the input. I hope to be able to shoot my 35 more after I start re-loading for it. I intended to use the Lee factory crimp die just wondering which set of dies to buy and I think I have a good idea now . The prices and availability of the ammo here is a little steep for me. I already reload for me 444 but that seemed too easy with a straight walled cartridge. the 308 is next but no hurry due to cheap hunting ammo and my rifle loves the cheap stuff.

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RCBS Dies is the way to go and get the lee crimp die if you want
I don't crimp if the cases holds the bullet tight
I set a cases with a bullet JUST a bullet put it in my hand and smash it it my reloading bench
then check it with the calipers if it's the same or very close I don't crimp
on my 375Win I stopped using the expanding die and then I was able to not use a crimp

I feel the crimp can be off a little and change the load presser a lot
on bench rest shooting they don't crimp as long as the bullet won't move being chambered

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I certainly agree with the RCBS dies. I've tried Lee dies and Lee bullet molds and just never had good luck with them. Buy the RCBS 3 die set and wait on the factory crimp die. You may surprised how good a little taper crimp is.

I bought lee factroy crimp die for my 45acp. It didn't work, and yes I used it correctly as I explained my set up to a guy that used Lee dies.
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I have to admit the Lee Factory crimp die is tough to understand. What with having to screw in the die and adjust it per the instructions, it can sure end up in frustration. I've stuck with them, though, and in having one for each of eight calibers, I've always managed to make them work just fine.

Lee sure has a tough row to hoe. Here they are, making quality products right here in America, and they've got to compete with companies selling products that are sometimes equal, and in a rare instance or two, maybe better, and they find their biggest obstacle is finding a price high enough to please their customers. I suppose that, in time, IF they keep raising their prices to match the others, they may someday get the respect they deserve.
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FYI, I neck size all of my .35 Rem hunting ammo - with a carbide .357 Mag sizer. Takes a delicate touch on the press but it works well. Check that everything chambers before heading to the field.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:15 AM
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FYI, I neck size all of my .35 Rem hunting ammo - with a carbide .357 Mag sizer. Takes a delicate touch on the press but it works well. Check that everything chambers before heading to the field.
This helps a lot when shooting .357 bullets for practice. I use a Lee Universal flaring die to keep necks from being damaged by very flat bases.

If there's an upside to loading the .35 Remington, it's brass life. My 336 has a very tight chamber, and needs FL sizing to feed well after a couple of cycles with full power loads. With moderate level practice loads, I have yet to wear any out.
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I would suggest FL sizing and a crimp , for your marlin . Always crimp for a tube Magazine rifle , to insure bullets stay put . There's no good reason to neck size for the .35 Rem. , the brass will last just as long if you FL size , and it will feed and chamber reliably . The old .35 isn't a target cartridge , and the 336 isn't a target rifle , so keep it simple !
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The old .35 isn't a target cartridge , and the 336 isn't a target rifle , so keep it simple !
With several loads, my M336 will top the accuracy of a fair number of bolt rifles, and is well worth the effort of well tuned loads. And it's fun to sit next to one of those tactical rifles with a BA Scope, and megadollar factory ammo, and shoot groups half the size @ 100yds with a 3X scope and my 30 year old lever gun.
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