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Old 07-17-2004, 10:16 PM
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Hey yall, I was just wanting to ask, in yalls opinion, what lever action rifle is the best chambered for the .44 Magnum? I tell ya what, it would be right nice to have a Mod. 94 Trapper in .44 Magnum. But I already have a 94 in 30-30, and besides I really dont need it. But you know how it is, when ya get the gun craze, but the funny thing is, it never goes away for me. Any replies would greatly appreciated! God Bless
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Old 07-18-2004, 04:46 AM
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Hey yall, I was just wanting to ask, in yalls opinion, what lever action rifle is the best chambered for the .44 Magnum? I tell ya what, it would be right nice to have a Mod. 94 Trapper in .44 Magnum. But I already have a 94 in 30-30, and besides I really dont need it. But you know how it is, when ya get the gun craze, but the funny thing is, it never goes away for me. Any replies would greatly appreciated! God Bless

Well, the only lever in 44 I have had experience with is a Marlin 1894PG and I really like it. Its light, holds 10rds, recoil is not to bad, and with the right aperture installed on it its plenty accurate for 125yds and less black bear / hog / deer / plinking
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Old 07-18-2004, 05:03 AM
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Mothing wrong with the Winchester, it's justnot my preference. Like actions scaled to the size of the cartridge, so the Marlin or the 92-cloes are just visually more appealing to me. Not a hoots difference in how well they shoot or operate.
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Old 07-18-2004, 03:31 PM
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Hey yall, I was just wanting to ask, in yalls opinion, what lever action rifle is the best chambered for the .44 Magnum? I tell ya what, it would be right nice to have a Mod. 94 Trapper in .44 Magnum. But I already have a 94 in 30-30, and besides I really dont need it. But you know how it is, when ya get the gun craze, but the funny thing is, it never goes away for me. Any replies would greatly appreciated! God Bless
I like my 1894 Marlin. It shoots where I point it. I hit the 200 yd gong on the 1st shot at the range at Ft. Jackson last week. The next 10 shots were close but no cigar. I keep tellin myself it is the 1st one that counts anyway.
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Old 07-18-2004, 05:12 PM
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I'd go with the Winchester myself. If you plan on shooting handloads that may run a little over the max length, you can get away with a lot more excessive length in the Winchester than the Marlin. This has been my experience, as nice as the marlin's are they are "scaled down" as one person put it and as such don't work good with a lot of custom loads. The 320gr loads I use in my Winchester 44 Trapper are way over max length and function fine. As to accuracy, the two are going to be about the same.

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Old 07-19-2004, 05:36 AM
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I've owned both Winchester and Marlin. The Marlin is prettier, but the synthetic stock and forearm on the Winchester will take more hunting and not show the results. Both guns were accurate. Both guns kicked hard with full reloads. Recoil is why I got rid of both guns. My 35 Marlin had less recoil and more range. It's a coin toss.
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Old 07-20-2004, 05:09 PM
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Well, I just might of found one of the best lever actions for the .44 . Take a look at the Model 94 Color Cased Trails Ends rifle, it is just beautiful. http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodin...d=109&cat=003C

I just wish it wasnt so expensive, thats the only downside, but it looks good enough to be worth it. Man that is a fine piece of shootin iron. God Bless
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Old 07-21-2004, 05:52 PM
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Have you looked at any of the rossi / puma or winchester 92 clones? They look nice and feel (to me) nicer in my hands than the marlins. Also, I believe the 1892 clones are generally lighter than the marlins and winchester 1894's.
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:11 PM
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I've just never really been interested in the 1892's. To me, the 73, 66, and 60 Henry, are cool, and then the 94 to me takes the cake. The only wa I'd like a 92, is the way The Duke had his, large loop lever.
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It might be ugly, but have you considered the Ruger 96/44? Aesthetics aside, they might be as nice a 44 Mag lever gun as anything else out there.

In the 'traditional' lever gun category, I'd take a Marlin over a Winchester every time--at least with current production models.
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:11 AM
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My vote goes to the Rossi/Brownchester 92's and clones then to the Marlin 1894's. I've just got this thing for the trim, sleek, compact handling qualities of a well tuned 92.

The Marlin's are really great guns, and easy to work on should that ever become necessary, also easy to pull the bolt for cleaning from the breech.
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Old 07-22-2004, 11:19 AM
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I had a Marlin 1894 for many years but it never shot loads heavier than 200 grains very well. Seven inch groups at 100 yards were common with 240 grainers. This is less than ideal. New Marlins have a better rifling but same slo-o-ow twist rate.

Ruger 96 is the one to buy. Groups of 2.5 inches or less at 100 yards common with just about any loading. I had my stock "checkered" with a basketweave type similar to Remington's pattern of the 1970's. I like it.
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Old 08-02-2004, 03:20 AM
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I have a Winchester 94AE, and a Marlin 1894, and they are both fine rifles. Buy what moves you.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:06 PM
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Hey AWESOME forum guys... I'm new here, but really enjoying this place.

I've got several Marlin 1894's and they're all wonderful rifles.. and a breeze to tear down for cleaning. Pull out the lever screw and out pops both the lever and the bolt! Fantastic.

But I gotta say, the 92's are really winning me over in a big way... beautiful, compact, reliable, strong, legendary. I really like both the Win/Browning/Miroku's as well as the new Rossi's. You'd do well with any of them. Might plan on getting each at some point! Dang 92's are bit of a PITA to tear down and re-assemble, but they're sure fine rifles. And like other guns, once you've torn-down and reassembled a few times, you get better at it!

I only have one .44mag, the Marlin 1894SS and I love it. But I want to chop it down to Trapper size.

Marlin 1894SS 20" - .44 magnum


I do have a new Legacy/Rossi Puma 92 Ltd Trapper in .454 and gotta say, this is one fantastic little carbine... most appealing indeed. My intention is to use it mostly with .45Colt and only occasional .454. Something you might want to consider.

Legacy/Rossi '92 Ltd. 16" Trapper - .454 Casull


And lastly, the king of the new production 92's in my view... perhaps the king of all the pistol-caliber lever rifles:

Winchester/Miroku '92 Ltd. 16" Trapper - .45 Colt


Just ordered one from CDNN... they're selling them for $699... that's below usual dealer cost! If you don't mind spending the bucks, these are magnificent.

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Old 08-24-2004, 05:58 PM
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I've just never really been interested in the 1892's. To me, the 73, 66, and 60 Henry, are cool, and then the 94 to me takes the cake. The only wa I'd like a 92, is the way The Duke had his, large loop lever.
Saw a Rossi just like that the other day in a shop called Doc Holiday's. Loop lever, .44 mag, about $250. You can get aftermarket loop levers for Marlins too. I think Cabela's catalog has them.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:42 PM
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Have you tried the Garrett Hammerheads? I've been told they won't fit in the Winchester. The reason the Winchester is longer is because it is the one that is "scaled down" to use pistol ammo. The Marlin is not scaled down, it is made specifically for the pistol bullets. That's why it won't take the Garretts. The .30-30 Marlin is a different gun made for rifle cartridges, not pistol cartridges. If you can fit the Garrets in a 94 I sure would like to hear about it. That would be great!!!!
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I'd go with the Winchester myself. If you plan on shooting handloads that may run a little over the max length, you can get away with a lot more excessive length in the Winchester than the Marlin. This has been my experience, as nice as the marlin's are they are "scaled down" as one person put it and as such don't work good with a lot of custom loads. The 320gr loads I use in my Winchester 44 Trapper are way over max length and function fine. As to accuracy, the two are going to be about the same.

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Old 08-25-2004, 07:14 PM
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I got rid of my Winchester 94 due to the sloppy action and less than stellar groups, and got a Marlin 1894. Better action, tight groups, and they ( I've gotten a few more since then) handle everything from plinking loads to factory hunting loads and even Buffalo Bore ammo just fine. My .44 drops deer and hogs just as well as does my .45.
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:11 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate your input. I have always preferred Marlins. However, I have a Puma 92 in .454 that I had slicked up. The action is sooooo smooth, and it is so good looking. However, I would get a Winchester if it would shoot the Hammerheads, even if I have to have a gunsmith work it over for me. I will try the Buffalo Bore in my Marlin .44 mag.
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I got rid of my Winchester 94 due to the sloppy action and less than stellar groups, and got a Marlin 1894. Better action, tight groups, and they ( I've gotten a few more since then) handle everything from plinking loads to factory hunting loads and even Buffalo Bore ammo just fine. My .44 drops deer and hogs just as well as does my .45.
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Question, which came up on this forum last week; can you shoot .454 & .45 Colt out of your '92? I thought you could do it using a revolver in .454 but not a rifle, but maybe it's the other way around? Also, what steps did you take to slick up your Puma? I have "Magic Springs" in all my Marlins, including my 336 .35 Rem, and the action gets noticably smoother after installation, which isn't too difficult if you have some basic gunsmithing knowledge, and maybe they are made for your '92. They are worth the nominal price. Also, if you have Marlin 1894's, you need to know how to prevent the so called Marlin Jam, which is caused by the sharp edge left on the snail shaped cam which rides on the bottom of the carrier as you work the lever. After a good amount of shells, as well as the manner in which you work the lever (fast or slow), a notch will begin to be worn into the carrier from this sharp edge. Since I use my .44 and .45LC for cowboy action shooting, I've had to replace the carrier on the .44 I bought used, and even though I talked the pawnshop down quite a bit, it was because of the yellowing varnish the previous owner had put on the stocks, and not because it wouldn't feed right due to the notched carrier, which had to be replaced. If I had known, it would have been a $75 gun, but after refinishing the stocks myself and then having an action job done, it's as smooth as the Cowboy Competition .45 I already have. It doesn't take long or much expertise to radius the cam before the notch starts to form, so it's an ounce of prevention to avoid a pounding headache!
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Thank you, I appreciate your input. I have always preferred Marlins. However, I have a Puma 92 in .454 that I had slicked up. The action is sooooo smooth, and it is so good looking. However, I would get a Winchester if it would shoot the Hammerheads, even if I have to have a gunsmith work it over for me. I will try the Buffalo Bore in my Marlin .44 mag.
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Old 08-26-2004, 07:18 AM
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Yes, my Puma 92 will shoot .45Colt smoothly and reliably. It will shoot the Mag TEch 260gr. .454 fast, smooth, and reliably. It will shoot other .454s, but they won't cycle as fast as the Mag Tech. I want to try some Buffalo Bore and Cor-Bon, but haven't had the chance.
I did not slick up my Puma myself. I knew that although the Puma is getting better, it still has some quality control problems. Steve Young at Steve's Gunz has an offer I couldn't refuse. He bought the gun and did the action, glass bedded the wrist (they will eventually crack there if you dont'), and because I am not a crow I don't like shiny things, nor do I want to tell the animal kingdom I'm coming by signaling with bright flashes, I had him glass bead the SS. It came out beautifuly. Sure enough, the gun had problems with the carrier. It's a long story, but this 92 was practically rebuilt before I ever saw it. I'm really happy I went with Steve's offer. This is the sweetest, smoothest, prettiest, best-handling lever gun I"ve ever seen, and I have several Marlins and a Savage. I've never liked the Winchester 94. They've always felt loose and cheap to me. However, I heard the newer ones are getting much better. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if I could shoot the Garrett Hammerheads in it, but I would do the same thing I did with the 92.
I know this isn't much help, but maybe it will help a little.
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Question, which came up on this forum last week; can you shoot .454 & .45 Colt out of your '92? I thought you could do it using a revolver in .454 but not a rifle, but maybe it's the other way around? Also, what steps did you take to slick up your Puma? I have "Magic Springs" in all my Marlins, including my 336 .35 Rem, and the action gets noticably smoother after installation, which isn't too difficult if you have some basic gunsmithing knowledge, and maybe they are made for your '92. They are worth the nominal price. Also, if you have Marlin 1894's, you need to know how to prevent the so called Marlin Jam, which is caused by the sharp edge left on the snail shaped cam which rides on the bottom of the carrier as you work the lever. After a good amount of shells, as well as the manner in which you work the lever (fast or slow), a notch will begin to be worn into the carrier from this sharp edge. Since I use my .44 and .45LC for cowboy action shooting, I've had to replace the carrier on the .44 I bought used, and even though I talked the pawnshop down quite a bit, it was because of the yellowing varnish the previous owner had put on the stocks, and not because it wouldn't feed right due to the notched carrier, which had to be replaced. If I had known, it would have been a $75 gun, but after refinishing the stocks myself and then having an action job done, it's as smooth as the Cowboy Competition .45 I already have. It doesn't take long or much expertise to radius the cam before the notch starts to form, so it's an ounce of prevention to avoid a pounding headache!
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