Short question, recoil wise since I have an injured shoulder,
surgery,two screws put in and will always be there.

Two firearms I'm looking at in Marlin, the 41 Rem. mag. and the .44 Rem mag.This would be in woods hunting for deer, usually less than a hundred
yards.

How does the recoil measure betwen the two calibers?

I don't have either .41 or .44. For deer at less than 100 yds. I hear good reports for the Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum. You have to be patient about getting the right shot but recoil shouldn't be an issue.

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I shoot both 357 and 44 Magnums (Winchester 94's). The 44 magnum is very gentle to shoot. Either the 41 or 44 can be loaded to your specific requirements, but the 44 magnum gets my vote because of the wide variety of different bullets available.

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The 41 will have a little less recoil with full power ammo. Id get the 44 and load it to a tolerable recoil. The 240/250 gr bullets at 1200fps from the rifle would work ok and be mild on the shoulder.

I actually prefer the .41, but that's becasue i prefer that caliber in handguns as well. Have shot 41 and 44 carbines side by side, and there is a little bit less recoil with the .41. Not a whole bunch, can easily notice it with a side-by-side comparison, but not so easily noticed if you shoot them on different days.

Don't think you'll get the reduction you're expecting...if a .44 bothers your shoulder, the .41 will too.

Are seveal .357 carbine fans here...myself as one...at under 100 yards, would consider that as a lower recoiling option.

Welcome to the forum.

I'd personally go with a .357 Mag and not look back. Best of luck!

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I will go along with the .357 Mag, varing grooves on the .44 mag and .41 either one of the larger I would slug the bbl before shooting and if you are non handloader the .357 will be the choice. I've shot several whitetail with mine and they drop fast the .357 is known as a man stopper in the 220lb catagory not many white tails are encountered in that area.

Do you reload ?

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Wyr

Thanks for the info, and no, I don't reload at this time.
That could soon change though.

According to Chuck Hawkins. The list I printed out if I'm remembering properly has the ft-lbs of recoil of a 240 grain 44 Mag at exactly the same recoil as the 170 grain 30-30 Win at around 10.6 ft-lbs.

The 357 Mag (158 grain) has a recoil of less than half of that at 4.4 ft-lbs.

You may also want to consider the 30-30 with the new Remington managed recoil ammunition. It is a 125 grain bullet and is supposed to produce 50% of the recoil as the standard 30-30 (I assume this is with 170 grain). If the claim is try of the 50% reduction , that would put the recoil at about 5 ft-lbs. Or just a bit more than the 357 Mag.

I'm going this 30-30 managed recoil route for my daughter who is just getting started in shooting and doesn't really like recoil too much. And it allows her to grow into the full strength ammunition latter.

Wonder how the .41 Mag.is on recoil, compared to the .357 Mag?

Do an internet search for recoil calculator , and you'll get many hits. If I remember correctly, the ave recoil for my Marlin 44 mag. was right at 10 pounds moving at 9.3 fps.

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As others have suggested, if you start handloading you can make some reduced loads with great performance and little recoil. I look at it this way, from a .44 carbine you can push a 240 grain bullet in the neighborhood of 1700 fps with full loads. Cut it back to between 1200 - 1300 and you're duplicating the ballistics from a handgun, which will work well out to 100 yards. Recoil will be light. I load 250 grain bullets in .45 Colt at about 1000 fps for a couple leverguns and the recoil is pretty much non existant.

I suggest you pick up a Ruger 44 carbine, either the new one or the old one. I use an old deerstalker loaded with 265 gr hornady and 22 grs of H-110. Clocks 1640 fps on my chrono. Drops deer like the hammer of Thor. Very mild recoil in the autoloader and the carbine is short light and easyto carry. I also used 180 gr XTP and full load of H-110 with perfect satisfaction, one shot, one kill. The 180 would kick less but both are easy on the shoulder.

Don't get the 44mag in a light trapper, because it will kick with full loads. I have a light Winchester angle eject and it kicks worse then a 30/30 with full loads. I have a .357 trapper that is very mild and accurate. The 41 will of course be somewhere inbetween and probably work really good in a Marlin. If I bought another 44mag, I think it would be a long barreled cowboy Marlin with the octagon barrel.

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For off the self ammo your going to have to go with either 44/357 Mag! For the least recoil and still have a 100 yd gun I'd go with the 357 Mag in a Marlin CB and get MagTech's 158 gr JSP they run about 1650 FPS out of mine and they'll take whitetails out to 100 yds easy!

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I'd second tanker's suggestion on the Ruger auto-loader or the 357. I had a friend just go thru this a few years ago. He can now shoot light recoiling shoulder guns, but hunted with a Thompson single shot pistol in 260 Remington for several years with great results and no shoulder damage. That might be a consideration and you can get them in real variety of calibers.

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Check out how each rifle feels and shoulders. The Marlin .41 mag is a pistol grip, which some do not care for in it's 1894 square bolt trim. The only Marlin .44 mag they made in pistol grip (as I can recall) was the discotinued PG model, so most of your choices even if buying used is the straight grip.

In this situation I would suggest the .41, as there there are still reasonbable ammo selections to choose from. Marlin's .44 mag has a very slow 1:38 twist that in some cases and with certain loads less accurate than you want.

The .41 mag pistols also kick less than the .44 mags, and if you can find a gently used Smith and Wesson Model 57 .41 mag. with target trigger, widened hammer and pinned barrel, you'll never consider another rifle pistol combo.

Just my humble opinion, my 2 cents, and my personal observations.

Good luck with whatever you choose and let us know your results.

A friend of mine bought a Henry (I think he said) Golden Boy in .44 mag. I have not shot it but he claimed recoil if very little. I would have went with something bigger, but he hunts thick woods and most his shots are under 50 yards. So he felt it would do the job with no problem.

Have you considered a mercury recoil reducer in the butstock? That should calm down the recoil quite a good deal. As far as a ,41 or a .44 Mag, I personnaly prefer the .41 Mag as I seem to get greater accuracy with my .41 than I do with either of my .44's.

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