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Old 05-21-2010, 11:03 AM
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I own a '92 Cimarron .38/.357 ...

So I went to my local gun shop today to pick up some ammo.
I told the guy at the counter that I prefered "round nose" ammo because my rifle just seemed to feed round nose ammo better than wad-cutters.

He says ... "You don't want to use round nose ammo in a levergun because the nose will rest on the primer and should there be any heavy recoil (.357), well ..."

I've never heard such a thing, but it does make sense.

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Old 05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
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I agree this is not a problem.

I shoot round nose bullets in the 307 and 356 Winchester rifles without a problem.
I have shot a few round nose cast bullets in the 357 Lever action without difficulty.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:50 AM
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The shop guy is correct for tube magazine rifles.
Cartridge manufacturers make specific cartridges for tube nagazine rifles, particularly lever rifles.
Leverevolution is one such unique one.
Some of the bullets that are recognized as acceptable for these rifles do have rounded noses and some have what is called a flat meplat on the front.
They never have pointed noses.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:41 PM
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1895 and 350's

Problem ?? I ran allot of 350gr Hornadys thru my 1895 Marlin without a problem.

If my mag tube would have exploded I would have known it,wouldn't I ?? -----pruhdlr
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:51 PM
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The shop guy is correct for tube magazine rifles.
Cartridge manufacturers make specific cartridges for tube nagazine rifles, particularly lever rifles.
Leverevolution is one such unique one.
Some of the bullets that are recognized as acceptable for these rifles do have rounded noses and some have what is called a flat meplat on the front.
They never have pointed noses.
Bob Nisbet
I believe the problem lies with spitzer-type bullets, not round nose.
Round nose ammo is actually recommended, as I read it.

I've never heard of "Leverevolution", but that would probably explain why their round-nose ammo is acceptable.

Therefore ... the shop guy is wrong.
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Problem ?? I ran allot of 350gr Hornadys thru my 1895 Marlin without a problem.

If my mag tube would have exploded I would have known it,wouldn't I ?? -----pruhdlr
Better go check ...
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:19 PM
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Uh..... the guy in the gun shop was trying to be helpful, but come on? A .357 or .38 lever gun?????? Give me a break.

There is a LOT of round-nosed ammo for the likes of the .30-30 and such. If that doesn't set off a primer, then I doubt you could do it with any commercial .357 load. There just isn't enough recoil.

I'm all about safety, but the gun shop was way off base with that one.
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I have a couple of rounds of 35Remington 200grn round noses that have a flat "meplat" on them now from repeated recoil in the mag tube, I don't recalling any rounds going off in the tube!??
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In all the years I've shot a M94 .30-30, WITH ROUNDNOSE ROUNDS, I've never had a problem. We're talking over 50 years. I don't see it as any kind of problem at all. It's still soft lead at the nose. Remington even loaded their .30-30 ammo with 'em.
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I own a '92 Cimarron .38/.357 ...

So I went to my local gun shop today to pick up some ammo.
I told the guy at the counter that I prefered "round nose" ammo because my rifle just seemed to feed round nose ammo better than wad-cutters.

He says ... "You don't want to use round nose ammo in a levergun because the nose will rest on the primer and should there be any heavy recoil (.357), well ..."

I've never heard such a thing, but it does make sense.

Thoughts?


When I got into .30-30 lever guns , I could buy el-cheapo Federal 170 grain RNSP .30-30 ammo at Walley World for ~ $ 10.00 a box + tax . I would buy several boxes , every few weeks .

I needed the brass and I did not have a good .312" mold . Figured , by the time I bought the brass and the components , I was not getting hurt too bad on the price ?

If I go open up a box and look at it , I will find round nose lead soft point bullets loaded in the ammo . If Federal's lawyers are not worried , neither am I .

I wish I have a penny for every round of factory RN .30-30 ammo that when ever ? ) ! :-)

Since my hand gun caliber ( including a Winny M1892 converted to .357 Mag ) lever guns like RN bullets better than SWC's ( that I used to cast for my wheel guns ) , I have bought RN molds for them . All my .45-70 molds are some variation of RN .

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