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Old 06-08-2010, 03:23 PM
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1860 henry in 45 colt


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I want to get one of these .I think it's about 1500$.But i read that the henry action is weak because it's brass and other things.And is limited to certaibn 45 colt ammo.But i dont want to get a rifle that i would have to custom order ammo for every time from midwayusa.Might as well get a weatherby if that is the case .Does anyone know the pressure of the leverevolution 45 colt ? It's 225 grain @ 950 fps.What accuracy can be expected of this rifle @ 100 yards with flat nose bullets ? jsp?.


How well does 45 colt kill deer and hog ?
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM
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The 1860 Henry rifle clones made by Uberti and sold by various firms are indeed weaker than modern lever action designs by Marlin, Winchester and others, because of the toggle link locking system and brass frame, but they are safe with standard pressure ammo. Do not use +P ammunition in these rifles.

The Hornady Leverevolution .45 Colt load is a standard pressure load and would be safe in the Henry. It would do a good job on hogs or deer, assuming you put the bullet where it is supposed to go. Actually, the same could be said of most any standard pressure .45 Colt load from a rifle. You will get a half-inch hole through the deer and it will probably run 50 yards and fall down dead.

From a functioning standpoint, the toggle link rifles can be sensitive to cartridge overall length, so the ammunition should be fairly close to standard length. If the rounds are too long or too short, the catridge elevator can bind. There is some room for variance in the design, but it can be a concern with ammo that is unusually short or long.

The sights on the 1860 are fairly crude, but duplicate the originals quite well. I would expect that you would be getting goups at 100 yards that would be usable on a deer (about 4 to 6 inches or so), but do not expect anything close to MOA. The good news is that by the time your accuracy starts to limit you, the ballistics of the cartridge have pretty much pooped out too.

The 1860's are very cool and fun to shoot. I had one in .44/40 for quite a few years and it was a great rifle for fun on the range.

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Old 06-08-2010, 06:05 PM
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uberti makes a steel frame model also .Id probably be better off getting a marlin 45/70 since ammo is easier to find local
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:05 PM
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Compare overall cartridge length of the Leverevolution to WW and RP factory loads. The Henry and the 1973 are dependent on exact cartridge length.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:08 PM
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The iron frames are really nice and sure fun to shoot. Mine is a 44/40 and I shot this the first time out from a sitting position at 100 yrds. Mine is a cimarron and I really enjoy it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:44 AM
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Cool Uberti 66

I've owned a Uberti rep 1866 in 44-40,brass receiver,24" barrell for 10 years and it's never failed to catch peoples attention at range open days or comps . It's likely to be a little easier shooting because of the fore stock ?. I too would like to add a Mod 60 to my stable of rifles also in 44-40 but in Iron frame .
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:29 PM
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If you plan on shooting Black Powder:

Choose the .44-40 for a blackpowder friendly RIFLE case design.
The slight bottleneck and thin brass seal the breech well enough to keep low pressure gas and fouling out of the action. If you have ever seen a blackpowder .45 Colt round load fired in a rifle, you probably saw the puff of smoke from the action end also. The straight and heavier case walls simply don't seal off the bore as well. None of this matters in a revolver.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:12 AM
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I want to get one of these .I think it's about 1500$.But i read that the henry action is weak because it's brass and other things.And is limited to certaibn 45 colt ammo.But i dont want to get a rifle that i would have to custom order ammo for every time from midwayusa.Might as well get a weatherby if that is the case .Does anyone know the pressure of the leverevolution 45 colt ? It's 225 grain @ 950 fps.What accuracy can be expected of this rifle @ 100 yards with flat nose bullets ? jsp?.


How well does 45 colt kill deer and hog ?

Consider a Rossi or a Marlin .

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