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Old 09-13-2010, 12:31 PM
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As mentioned below a few days ago, I have a NIB .45 EMF Hartford pre-safety carbine I am considering selling. I've inquired about a fair selling price and received several comments. Thanks for the advice. A couple of emails advised me to forget selling it as it isn't being made anymore and to get a nice Hartford .45 revolver to go with it. I'm not into cowboy action shooting but the idea of a matched caliber pair sounds interesting. I'm used to rifles in calibers 30-30, etc. and varmint calibers from .22 Hornets up to modern calibers. Exactly what is a .45 revolver caliber good for when shot in a rifle or carbine. It would seem the bullet is too heavy and the typical cowboy load too light to reach out very far and touch some game. What do you .45 lovers use them for besides punching holes in a target. Thanks!
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:16 PM
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Never used a 45 carbine before but I have shot a deer and a couple of hogs with my 45 LC Ruger Blackhawk. Left a big hole in & out of the mule deer doe and she dropped like a rock using a 245 gr JHP. I was lucky enough to get in close to a bunch of does at a watering hole. Pig hunting made me a beleiver of the mighty 45. Nothing like taking on a charging or cornered hog with my Ruger. These were not cowboy loads but loads recommended only for Ruger or Contender. Hot! I was once confronted by a black bear on a deer hunting trip who was determined to scare me off so he could dine on my tasty hot lunch. My rifle was leaning against a tree about 15-20 yards away so I drew my Ruger tucked in my shoulder holster and aimed, cocked the hammer and the bear ran away so fast, you'd think his butt was on fire. I can only imagine that a 45 LC being shot through a rifle with a proper bullet weight and powder charge can be equally devastating at acceptable distances. I carry my trusty Ruger 45 as a sidearm while elk hunting in Colorado. Yeah it's a bit heavy but I'd rather have it & not need it than need it & not have it.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:21 PM
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I have a H&R .45LC carbine and I am using it for my deer carry gun. It's light, pointable, and out to about 125 yards with the iron sights, what I shoot is in trouble. I have a New Model Blackhawk Convertible in .45LC/.45ACP and carry that also. I hope to blood that this year if a sub-75 yard shot is offered, but if one isn't I'll put the carbine into action.

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Old 09-14-2010, 03:58 AM
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I keep a Rossi 92 45 Colt with full magazine near the bed as a late night greeting.
There's no kids in the house, neighbors are some distance away and wife person is next to me. The cats, on the other hand, had best seek cover.

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Old 09-14-2010, 06:45 AM
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laocmo, the 45 colt has the trajectory to be a 150yd gun if loaded heavy to 44mag pressures and since you have a 92 action it will handle even a bit more pressure than that. Put on a good peep sight and practice a bit and you have a great hunting rifle. A stout 300gr 45 caliber slug will go end to end on deer. I have a AE 94 Winchester trapper that is a joy in the woods. I load 300gr bullets to about 1600fps and it kills much better than the energy numbers suggest. Since I put a small shotgun scope in quick detachable rings on it its become my favorite hunter. The scope is set up for my heavy loads then I pop it off and my open sights are set for a plinking load. I had to mill the bases a bit to see the sights but it was worth it. If you don't reload you ought to start because the colt in a 92 action deserves a good hunting round fed through it. Dave
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:50 AM
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As mentioned below a few days ago, I have a NIB .45 EMF Hartford pre-safety carbine I am considering selling. I've inquired about a fair selling price and received several comments. Thanks for the advice. A couple of emails advised me to forget selling it as it isn't being made anymore and to get a nice Hartford .45 revolver to go with it. I'm not into cowboy action shooting but the idea of a matched caliber pair sounds interesting. I'm used to rifles in calibers 30-30, etc. and varmint calibers from .22 Hornets up to modern calibers. Exactly what is a .45 revolver caliber good for when shot in a rifle or carbine. It would seem the bullet is too heavy and the typical cowboy load too light to reach out very far and touch some game. What do you .45 lovers use them for besides punching holes in a target. Thanks!
I'm honestly not sure how strong the action is on the carbine you have, but if it's a Model '92 knock-off, then you can certainly put together some stout loads and hunt deer-sized game out to ~100 yards. With a good peep sight and some practice, that can be extended a little further. In other words, it's plenty of gun/range for about 90% of the shots made on deer in this country. Also, it's one of the best cartridges around for handloaders because you can use a powder like TrailBoss for cat-sneeze loads or something a little slower, like 2400 or Li'l Gun, for full-throttle hunting stuff. If you don't reload, it's still a versatile cartridge, although it's not always easy to find exactly what you're looking for, on the shelf.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:56 AM
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Check out this article by Paco, its a very good one with load info too. http://leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:48 AM
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I've used an original '92win in 38-40 w/180gr cast bullet going 1600fps to kill deer and hogs. I limited shots to 50yds and perfect angles. Your .45Colt carbine will beat this hands-down w/250+gr bullets poking along @1200fps. I know - I've done it. Challenge yourself to getting close and the .45lc won't dissappoint.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:01 PM
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<<>>The scope is set up for my heavy loads then I pop it off and my open sights are set for a plinking load.<<>>
That's a great idea! I might use it for my 444P with peeps and a 1x4 leupold
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