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Old 11-19-2010, 06:00 AM
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Iíve been looking through the archives but donít find much (actually, almost nothing) about the Henry Repeating Arms Big Boy rifles. Iíve wanted a .357 for a long time and in 2011 I might have the finances to pull it off. I know that the HRA rifles are not classic designs at all, but they do appear to be well crafted rifles from what I have read in other forums. It may just be that the general preference of this forum is classic designs, thus no mention of them. The Puma rifles look really nice, especially the 24Ē 92ís, and they are priced well too. But, it bothers me these days to buy guns built off shores. Many of you probably wonít agree with me on this point, and I respect that. Iíve got a bunch of Marlins btw, and thought it would be interesting to have another lever brand in my safe. Winchester would be great to have, but arenít the .357ís priced astronomically if you can even find one?

If you have a HRA BB Iíd love to hear your comments on them.

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Old 11-19-2010, 06:31 AM
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What can be said factually that the Henry lever actions are the smoothest and are, as a general matter, more reliable than other lever actions in pistol calibers. I would like one as well. The Brass Alloy receiver is really nice looking and plenty strong. I like the Puma M92 as well but, aside from not being made in the USA, they need a little tweeking to make them right and then they are real good and really stong actions. I hope you are able to get your Henry and follow up with a good report.
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Old 11-19-2010, 06:47 AM
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What can be said factually that the Henry lever actions are the smoothest and are, as a general matter, more reliable than other lever actions in pistol calibers. I would like one as well. The Brass Alloy receiver is really nice looking and plenty strong. I like the Puma M92 as well but, aside from not being made in the USA, they need a little tweeking to make them right and then they are real good and really stong actions. I hope you are able to get your Henry and follow up with a good report.
I would be very interested in seeing some proof of your claims that the Henry is factually more reliable in pistol calibers than the other lever actions.

To the OP, my Puma M92 has NOT needed any tweeking. It has been reliable and accurate out of the box from day one. My Marlins have done just fine as well.
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From what I can tell so far the Puma (same as Rossi, right?) is lighter than the Big Boy. Plus the Big Boy has one available barrel length, 20".
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:08 AM
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"Dreaded Marlin Jam" a term coined to describe problem inherent in Marlin lever actions - Here is link to maurauder - homesteader article by Rusty Marlin "Fixing the Dreaded Marlin Jam" with specific ways to fix the design flaw http://marauder.homestead.com/files/marlin94fix.html
It might take all day to link all information on "Marlin Jams" and the "Dreaded Marlin Jam" which are two different issues. The 94 action is best suited to bottleneck cartridges and not straight wall cartridges. Google it for yourself - there are issues, not all guns, just a few, but there are issues. All Marlins have the same design weakness. You will not find a seemingly infinite number of people complaining that their Henry lever actions as there are people complaining about their Marlin 94's especially creating a term in common usage such as the "Dreaded Marlin Jam" as it relates to the Henry.
“We use the Henry Golden Boy at our
shooting school to get new shooters up
to speed and get them accustomed to
working a lever gun. We love the
Henry rifles because they are
American made, reliable and have the
smoothest actions right out-of-the-box.”
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As for the Rossi M92, again, it is common knowledge that they are not out of the box reliable - just go to the acknowledeged M92 expert's site Streve's Gunz and see what can be done to make them right. http://www.stevesgunz.com/index.htm
I knew the Marlin fanboys would get excited but in every thread they bang on the Henry which is a fine, reliable, and smoothest lever action out of the box in current production with the exception of the Browning BLR which is the best lever action you can buy. Having said all this I hope to own a Marlin 94 in .45 Colt, a Rossi M92 in .45 Colt and .357 (from Steve's Gunz) and a Henry (Non-Golden Boy) in .45 Colt within the next year. They are all good but let's be real.
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"From what I can tell so far the Puma (same as Rossi, right?) is lighter than the Big Boy. Plus the Big Boy has one available barrel length, 20"."
The Puma was made by Rossi but now is an Italian import. The Puma M92 that is admired for its strength in .454 was the Rossi. Not sure about the quality of the 'New" Puma M92 from Italy. Have the new catalog and they look nice.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:22 AM
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Rossi makes the rifles in Brazil, at least that is what their website indicates.

http://www.rossiusa.com/history.cfm

Chiappa makes the Italian version, the Puma's as we are indicating in this thread I think.

http://chiappafirearms.com/product/818

Are Rossi rifles better than the Chiappa's, or vice-versa?
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:26 AM
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I would like to know the answer. I do know that once you get a Rossi M92 tuned up it is a great gun. Steve's Gunz sells a DIY kit but I would like to get one directly from him worked over as he describes - not for "racing" but for everyday use. I really like the 20" stainless models.
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The thing i don't like about the henry is the lack of a loading gate. If you have seen photo's of the pre production samples, they had a loading gate.
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I do not care for the look of the Henry, but I will admit that is personal taste, if not downright predjudice. Some folks like the look, and thank the Lord we still have choices in America!

On a practical side, the ones I have handled are entirely too heavy for the uses I make of such a rifle. Again, some folks won't mind that. The one I have shot (3 rounds) was accurate and pleasant to shoot. I also suspect, but do not know, that the Marlin action would be significantly easier to clean and maintain.
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No loading gate is a big issue I agree. You need to be able to stuff the magazine,
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The loading gate is not an issue for me. Frankly, my 336's and 1895 are kind of tough on my fingers. I suppose I'd rather have the loading gate while at the OK Corral, but for hunting and range work the tube of the Henry should be fine.
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The loading gate is not an issue for me. Frankly, my 336's and 1895 are kind of tough on my fingers. I suppose I'd rather have the loading gate while at the OK Corral, but for hunting and range work the tube of the Henry should be fine.
Sounds like you should buy the Henry.
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Sounds like you should buy the Henry.
Ha! You probably are right, I talked myself into it!
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Had one show up in my living room for Christmas. I put about 50 rounds of .38 spl through it the next day and found it to be pretty accurate right out of the box. I did have a little trouble with it feeding the .38s but they were reloads from an unknown source. Put a handful of factory-loaded .357s downrange and didn't have any trouble with them. But we're now visiting my wife's parents in Oregon so I haven't had a chance to shoot it again. Anxious to try it with some factory-fresh .38s. Also, since I shot it, I've done a good cleaning and lube of the action. I'm hoping it'll shoot .38s well but I don't expect it to be an everyday gun so if it works best with .357s, so be it.

More to come when we get home and I get a chance to run it some more.

Sure looks good next to my Golden Boy, too.
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henry 357

nice rifle put about 3000 rounds through,flawless and acurate.changed sights to skinner peeps .and k&s crosshair front
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i used factory 357 in the henry,no problem and 38s all factory.to nice of a gun to use reloads in it. thats me though..love shooting it.
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nicest lever I ever played with was a Uberti 24 in bbl. Win '73 copy in .45 LC......very slick action, great trigger and purtiern all the rest, by a WAYS !!
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how's about this one ?.... :

1883 LEVER ACTION RIFLE — 25.5"

it's a Colt Burgess reproduction by Uberti... in .45 LC of course.....
MSRP $1,499
Blue; A-grade walnut; round barrel
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you want "Bigger" ? ....hereyago... :

1876 CENTENNIAL RIFLE — 28" .45-60
MSRP $1,599
Case-hardened; A-grade walnut; straight stock

<table class="specs-chart"><thead> <tr> <th colspan="6" class="specs-table-heads th_color"> 1876 CENTENNIAL RIFLE SPECIFICATIONS </th> </tr> <tr> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">ITEM
NUMBER</th> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">MODEL</th> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">CALIBER</th> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">BARREL
LENGTH</th> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">MATERIALS</th> <th class="specs-table-column-heads th_color">MSRP</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td colspan="6" class="specs-table-subheads-color td_color">1876 Centennial Rifle</td> </tr> <tr> <td>342500</td> <td>Centennial</td> <td>.45/60</td> <td>28"</td> <td>Case-Hardened Frame and Lever, Blue Buttplate</td> <td>$1,599</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="td_color">342501</td> <td class="td_color">Centennial</td> <td class="td_color">.45/75</td> <td class="td_color">28"</td> <td class="td_color">Case-Hardened Frame and Lever, Blue Buttplate</td> <td class="td_color">$1,599</td> </tr> <tr> <td>342503</td> <td>Centennial</td> <td>.50/95</td> <td>28"</td> <td>Case-Hardened Frame and Lever, Blue Buttplate</td> <td>$1,599</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="6" class="specs-table-footnotes-start-new td_color"> SPECIFICATIONS: Capacity: 11+1 Number of Grooves: 6 Twist: Right Total Length: 48" Weight: 10 lbs. Barrel: Octagonal Stock: A-Grade walnut straight
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