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Old 09-19-2011, 03:17 PM
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Hodgdon Leverevolution powder?


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I have all the components now to load for the .356 except for powder, I was checking Midway , Natchez, and Sinclair"s (Brownell's) website to order some H4895 as I couldn't find any of the powders I wanted locally. I saw on the Sinclair site Hodgdon Leverevolution Powder. It said Hornady under the Hodgdon label. Has anyone used this? Is this what Hornady's been loading the LE ammo with? What powders is it like as far as burning rate?
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:27 PM
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LE powder burning rate

Thought to check Hodgdon's website after I started this thread and found the answers to some of my questions above. They list it for several of the lever catridges, but not for the .356Win. The burning rate is between BLC-2 and H380, a liitle slower than W-W 748. Has anyone worked up some loads w/ it?
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:05 AM
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I have the components too...haven't tried the FTX with LVR yet as there is no data...I'm waiting for those more experienced here to try first
I tried the LVR and FTX with my 30-30 and matched the factory loads.
I really want to try the LVR in my 7-30, but again I haven't dared yet.
Hopefully we'll all hear something soon, November deer season is coming!
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Hodgdon has been very emphatic about NOT using LVR with any cartridge for which they haven't published data. I would go so far as to say there is not another powder on the market with its unique attributes. I've also used it in the 30/30, with 160gr FTX bullets, but I have yet to be brave (or stupid?) enough to try it in my 35 caliber wildcat round. The net gains you might realize are not worth the flying bits of steel that might explode in your face?
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:44 PM
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All the new LVR ammo does not use the same powder. The powder they are selling from what I read is what is used in the 30-30 and 308mX. The LVR powder works exceptional in my 307 , but I have not even come close with the 338 MX to factory velocity with listed LVR data. So this makes me think that it definetly is geared fro the smaller bores. I did notice that the top loads filll the case up to the base of the bullet.
For the 356 , H4198 was a little more accurate than H4895 for me. A lot of people swear by IMR 4064 in their 356.
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:34 PM
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I loaded some of the new 140 gr Monoflex bullets in my 30-30,Hornady recomended using data for the 160 gr FTX and Leverevolution powder to load the 140 gr.Shoots very well.Only problem is I have my reciever sight down as low as it will go and still shooting a foot high at 100 yards.Guess I need a scope or taller front sight.Leaning towards a taller sight if possible.Kinda defeats the purpose of the lever gun if I have to scope it.My chrono is brokenso no data, but I sense the velocity is pretty high for a 30-30
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:53 PM
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Ben T do you have any velocity data for your 307 and the LVR? I'm curious to try it as well. Thanks
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:23 PM
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I haven't had a chance to chrono 307W loads but I do have a load posted in the handloading section. Below is the link:

Another 307 Winchester loading thread

The load appears safe for my converted Marlin so the Winchester 94AE should have no problem at all.
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I haven't used any of these components to make my own loads. I have been working with the Hornady LEVERevolution Monoflex 140 gr. factory ammo and it works well in my .30-30. I got 1" group off the bench at 100 yds. and about 5" group from sitting (no sling) at 200 yds. I plan to use it for deer next week and probably for elk later in October here in SE Wyoming.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:17 AM
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If there's no data for your cartridge, but the powder is in the same burn-speed range, then the reason for no data is most likely that the powder didn't perform any better than existing powders. Hodgy is only marketing that powder to a few cartridges where it's optimized. It'll still work in a much broader range of cartridges, but no better than existing powders, so they're not marketing it to those carts. See what I mean?
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:47 PM
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The LVR powder is designed to give higher than normal velocity with less pressure. Most cartridges it is used in are constrained by the pressure ceiling of older lever action cartridges. It makes no sense to use it with cartridges that have high max pressures. Most max loads I've tried with LVR powder fills the case and still has reasonable pressure. It would have to be a very compressed load to get pressure up to a more modern cartridge range. It's definitely a specialized powder. I did see load data for the 30 Rem AR.

LVR is the most accurate powder that I have used in my 307. Not the fastest. Using 170 FP I started with 40gr up to 42.5 grains.

GR AV Vel
40 2300
41 2410
42 2450
42.5 2460

I do three shot groups at 50 yards. All these loads were under 3/4 of an inch with the highest load having all three holes touching. Anything over 2400fps is just fine with me for deer hunting. But nothing else I've tested has given me this accuracy.
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