Yeah, I wish. Why doesn't anybody make a production 50 cal lever action? The 500 jrh or even the 500 s&w would be awesome. Seems like there is one out in 500 s&w, but its crazy expensive.

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Probably not needed, or, would not be in great demand. Yes, there is a 50 cal lever gun in the S&W cartridge,....and, it IS expensive. With the Alaskan, and host of other wildcats, and, the 45-70, 450 Marlin, and even the 444 Marlin, a lever gun can produce all the power needed to take anything on earth. I modified a Marlin 444 XLR to shoot a 405 grain bullet at 2150+ fps........4100+ ft lbs of energy. If that isnt enough to get the job done.......what is? Vince Lupo took Africas Big Five with a standard 45-70 and Randy Garretts ammo....nothing spectacular there, so anything in the ball park or better would negate a 50 cal in a lever gun....unless of course somebody just had to have one!

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How many of the round or guns out there today are really needed? I just think it would be cool.

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........excellent point!!!!

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Maybe you mean "cheap" instead of "production".

What's the matter with paying the tarrif for a Big Horn Armory Model 89 production .500 S&W Carbine ? IF you REALLY wanted one, i.e.



Here it is, compared (top) to a Rossi model 92 (bottom):



As usual - If you wanna play, you gotta pay.

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Rangr44; One of the good points about that rifle is that it gives the S&W X frame 500 a "partner".....get one load to shoot well in both, and you would really have a winning combination. ........been trying to do the same with my 44 mag revolvers and a Marlin 1894...problem is, I cant find a used stainless 1894..........and dont have the funds for a new one.

By the way, how much do those cost?

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You could also get a Turnbull 1886, or conversion, in 50 Alaskan or .50-110 (50 Express.)

I wouldn't call the Model 89 "Production" yet. They have been scheduled to ship now for well over a year, but I have yet to hear of anyone receiving one. I almost ordered one in June 2010 when they were set to ship in another month or two, and I am glad I didn't. I don't have that kind of patience.

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I would love to have one in 50bmg. That would be fun.

"I would love to have one in 50bmg. That would be fun."

Until you pull the trigger the first time..............OUCH!!!

I have been whining for over a decade to Marlin trying to get them to make their 1895 in .50 AK so I can have a reasonably priced mate for my Encore .50 AK pistol. I've drooled over the Wild West Guns .50 AK conversion for decades but the price! There is always a catch. If you are going to go .50 then go all the way and use a real .510 caliber rifle bullet. The .50 AK will leave the .500 S&W in the dirt in a good strong action and even out of a 12 inch handgun, the .50 AK will trump the .500 S&W and do it at lower pressures, albeit with a bit more powder which translates into a bit more recoil even if you held them at the same velocities.

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Mic McPherson will convert a Marlin 1894 to 50AE for you ...
What is Possible with the Marlin?

Dave Clay offers a levergun in a variety of big bore calibers, including the 500 S&W and 500 Linebaugh
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I think that Jack Huntington will also. So, the options are out there.

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Geez,

I can bairly get my 450M to shoot a 400g bullet at 2100ft/sec.

What dif you do?

Snake

I'm not really looking for the biggest most powerful lever action. There is already Wild West Guns's 50 Alaskan. Actually, I think one chambered in 500 jrh would be cool. Reasonably low pressure, fairly short case. It would be like a 50 long colt. You could put it in a light gun like a Winchester 94(?) Or Rossi.

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Why not use the 50-70 Gov't?

At what pressure?

Pete

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When was the last time you saw a 50-70 lever action?

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Never. Just like I haven't seen one in 500 JRH but wouldn't one be nice? Isn't that the idea of this thread in a sense.....that it would be neat to have a .50 cal lever gun ( for less than the four figures of the Alaskan Co-pilot)? I mean, if Marlin can make a 45-70 lever gun, they could probably make a 50-70 lever gun.
Pete

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Pete D; "At what pressure"..............42,000, why do you ask?

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I've been following your work on the Marlin, Flattop, but haven't come across just HOW and WHAT mods you did...I would certainly love to see a Marlin modified to do what you say is possible without costing an arm and a leg.

I know what Mic Mc, Noonan and the other Leversmiths are doing and what their costs are...and I checked out DRC and see he has started from scratch with his own receiver, but basically only for the shorter cartridges...wish I could come up with $2500 for one of his Masterpieces.


2150fs at 42K WHAT...PSI or CUP is pushing credulity a bit...for a case that size.

Can you give me the COAL and powder type and barrel length so I can run some QL data?

I ran some rough numbers last night...22" bbl, 405 Beartooth WFNGC and even at 2.72" COAL using a PSI a bit over what is recommended for the Marlin receiver I could only get a bit over 2050fs with a 22" bbl.

I do understand and know where the weak points are in the Marlin and how to overcome them to a certain extent, but I would need to know a LOT more for me to accept your numbers at face value.

I'm not disputing your veracity, but I've been at this game a very long time and those numbers are raising all kinds of bells and whistles in light of the research and calculations I've done with my own "conversions".

Thanks

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