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Old 01-09-2005, 05:44 PM
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ha-yall, I just love my marlin 336 .35rem with its old weaver scope, it does the job perfect on the blacktails here in western washington.but my ? is, does a .35rem have enough punch for an elk, I would be keeping shots with in 100yds and of course shot placement is every thing, but elk have mighty big bones.I figure if I can take one with a bow & arrow a .35 should work even better. Or should I save my money up and buy a new 30-06 or 300mag.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:23 PM
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I think it would work, personally. My first choice in ammo would be some of the Buffalo Bore 220gr / 2200fps loads. Expensive, but you can probably kill a bunch of elk on one box
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I think it would work, personally. My first choice in ammo would be some of the Buffalo Bore 220gr / 2200fps loads. Expensive, but you can probably kill a bunch of elk on one box

I don't speak from experience, but I think that 35rem would be just fine. I'm sure that caliber has killed way more elk than we would think, but that was probably before all the super magnums came out. With shots under 100yds I'd think you'd be fine Mike's advice is good, premium ammo just stacks the odds in your favor a bit more.
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Shot placement and the discipline to shoot ONLY when you are sure is the key. If you hunt as if you had a bow in your hand, the 35 Rem will do just fine.

Thinking of a rifle just for elk? Check out a 35 Whelen. Just about perfect for elk to 200+ yds, IMHO.
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I think it would work, personally. My first choice in ammo would be some of the Buffalo Bore 220gr / 2200fps loads. Expensive, but you can probably kill a bunch of elk on one box
I Would go with that thought . Other than that I would ask Barnes bullet if they would think the 200 gr. barnes bullet would be up to the task.
The native's used to shoot deer up north of us with the 32/20 in years past I heard , so why could a well placed 35 Rem reload not kill an elk. The gun will take a moose.
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:31 PM
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I second that, unless you reload and can work up a similar load for your gun. Buffalo Bore heavy .35 offerings have plenty of punch, and are almost overkill unless your shooting an animal larger than 250 pounds, including hogs. However, the factory 200 grainers still have plenty of killing power inside 100 yards with proper shot placement, and elk won't know the difference.
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:33 PM
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I wish Barnes would offer something in .35 you can chamber in a tube mag, but so far nothing.
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I Would go with that thought . Other than that I would ask Barnes bullet if they would think the 200 gr. barnes bullet would be up to the task.
The native's used to shoot deer up north of us with the 32/20 in years past I heard , so why could a well placed 35 Rem reload not kill an elk. The gun will take a moose.
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I second that, unless you reload and can work up a similar load for your gun. Buffalo Bore heavy .35 offerings have plenty of punch, and are almost overkill unless your shooting an animal larger than 250 pounds, including hogs. However, the factory 200 grainers still have plenty of killing power inside 100 yards with proper shot placement, and elk won't know the difference.
So I guess if you could get a little closer to your game, placed your shot, and or used the 220 BB , the elk is yours.
As a reloader the Hornady bullet would hold together and penitrate more than the remington factory load .
A friend shot a big cow moose with a 30/30. said you had to get close,not hit a big bone, and shoot more than once. He had just killed a cow and calf with eight shots.
So why would a 35 Remington not kill an elk?
The barnes bullet would work if you used your rifle then as a two shot. One in the tube and one in the chamber. Most of the time after your second shot you "blew your chance"
Only once did the third and fourth shot make a differance .I was shooting at more than one animal.
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Never liked these kind of questions too much...get me right up next to an elk and I'll figure out how to kill one with whatever rife is at hand if I NEED to...but that's not the same as going out specifically to hunt them.

In the first case, if all I had was a 25/20 could figure out a way to have elk steaks and not starve..may not be traditional hunting and may not be within the rules of fair chase, but I'd eat.

That kind of thing isn't exactly sport hunting.


The .35rem., so long as you are close enough, has the power to do in an elk..doesn't have much in the way of range, but has the power up close to expand and still pennetrate into the vitals so long as you don't take oblique angling shots and don't try to hit the big bones going in.
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Another option would be to contact Marshall and see what his thought about using one of the Beartooth 200 or 210 grain bullets. a good hard cast might be hard to beat. At 100 yards the 35 Rem should do the trick, as long as you dont read any articles about needing a super mag to do the job
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I agree. Handgun hunters have been taking elk cleanly with the .44 magnum since it was introduced. Even when given the extra velocity out of a rifle barrel, it does not have the energy of the .35 Remington, plus it gives you more range, or "practical" shooting potential. I'm not knocking the .44 mag., mind you, but unless you will be hunting elk in an area which will preclude you from getting closer than 150 yards to the animal, the 200 grain Core-loct factory is going to take it cleanly and quickly. No super short magnum or bore so big it'll dislocate your shoulder round is going to make up for a bad shot. What it boils down to is your own ability to put the bullet in the right place, getting close enough to allow you to be confident in your abilities to do so, and being a good hunter who is smart enough to know when the shot isn't right, won't rush a shot, and can pass up the wrong opportunity for one that is right because you know you can get yourself into a better situation.
I've seen the good old factory ammo crash large hogs with authority, as has the premium offerings. Use what you are going to hunt with to practice with, and a good rule of thumb is to take one practice shot for every yard that your game may be away from you. 150 yards max. range = 150 practice shots. Get yourself some good optics, and a decent range finder. Learn how to glass your game and estimate shooting distances, backed up with your range finder, and you'll be ready to learn and hunt elk. Go .35 Remington!!!!
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Another option would be to contact Marshall and see what his thought about using one of the Beartooth 200 or 210 grain bullets. a good hard cast might be hard to beat. At 100 yards the 35 Rem should do the trick, as long as you dont read any articles about needing a super mag to do the job
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I'd use a lead bullet...

This is kind of like me showing up for that desert mule deer hunt with a 444. Everyone got a great laugh and said I was smart to bring a backup gun until they saw that it was a Marlin in 375 Win!

None of this hampers you as long as you know each caliber's limitations and what the bullet is capable of.
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I'm not sure this is the correct thread to post this, but if your question hasn't been answered yet, I'd like to relate what the 30/30 can do in the hands of someone who is patient and skilled.

A man in my community has a 94 Winchester that was manufactured in 1904. So for the 100th anniversary of this rifle he decided to hunt all his big game species last fall with it. He's a local CAS shooter, so he shoots the rifle a good deal. A local sporting goods store has a series of 3 photos of the man with his kills: a nice buck antelope taken in the Red Desert, a respectable whitetail taken in the Big Horn Basin, and a 2 point bull elk taken on Green Mountain. All were shot well within 100 yards. The bull elk (I've never seen a two point bull, but there it was in the photo. Most likely a yearling bull.) was taken at about 40 yards. It was shot on the point of the shoulder, dropped immediately, and required a quick follow up shot to the neck. All animals were taken with 150 gr. Silvertip factory loads.

So, if you are proficient with the 35 Rem. and are patient, take it and have the time of your life.
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I've personally witnessed the demise of several elk taken with Marlin in 35 Remington. We used plain Remington core-lockt ammo featuring 200 grain bullet.

Key to success is wait for a good broadside presentation. Watch your distance, don't take a shot much past 125 yards or so. Then shoot into the center of the chest tight behind the shoulder crease. Shoot again if he is still on his feet.
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From the Leverguns.com site: http://www.leverguns.com/outdoors/levergunners.htm Seems the .35 Rem. held it's own pretty darn good!
Left - my father Lloyd Smale
Right - my fiancé Lisa Borchert
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Lisa shot hers with her .35 Rem with a RCBS 200gr. rnf
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We are all so gathered up with super fast and supper speed. As a young lad , I tried with every spare dollar I had to get a bit more out of that ol' ford.
I started reloading to save the coin on the hand guns I shot. Then it was to save a few bucks on the rifles too ,when at the range and not in the bush.Then again got caught up on the improvments I could make on the cartridges I shot.
Well improvements could and did get made to the 35 Remington in my Marlin RC, as well as the 303B.
But Why? Factory loads kill game just as they are. The 35 Marlin is a great little gun as it is , so if we need bigger /faster buy a 3006 right?
It is just my need to have some thing a little bigger and a little faster.
Well like wise the steak and that peice of cake needed to be bigger too!
What did I gain?
I got bigger my self , but not any faster.
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Back in the 50's I used to hunt with an old man in Colorado. The only gun he owned was an old Marlin in 32-40. I've seen him take more than one elk with that old gun, so I imagine that your .35 Rem will do just fine, as long as you shoot at no greater distance than you can reliably hit where you aim. I've taken one Elk with a black powder 38-55, and must admit the range was only 60 paces. The idea is to get within range, and to know your own limits to do this. I've passed up a good number of shots at game, because I didn't feel comfortable with the shot. The advise I received from that old man was, Ony you know your limits, and if you pay attention to them, you will be a succesfull hunter. Enjoy your .35 and don't be afraid that you are undergunned. As long as you are sattisfied with your choices you will do well.

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After having hunted for 8 years with only my 44 magnum, I would say the 35 Rem is quite capable of harvesting an elk within the operating parameters of the cartrige and rifleman. Nothing wrong with it at all and you shouldn't feel under-gunned or non-ethical. I think it will be a fun hunt!
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