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Old 12-18-2007, 11:35 AM
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I was wondering if anyone has used this ammunition. I been unable to find anything to read about actual field performance. Nor really any information as to the preceived recoil reduction from the standard factory 150's or 170's.

I'm interested in using this for an intro for my daughter. She did not care for my 35Rem with 200 grain factory loads recoil.

I like the idea of being able to move from the reduced recoil to standard ammunition as she grows and gets used to recoil.

I also plan to buy a spikehorn stock (about $100 from most sites) or make one up of my own by buying an older stock and cutting it down and installing a recoil pad on it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:31 AM
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I was eight years old when I bought my first Win. 94 in .30-30. Along with that rifle, I also picked up a Lee reloader kit. We had lots of groundhogs then and my favorite load was a 125 grain bullet. Recoil was light and hits to 200 yards was nothing uncommon. By loading your own, you can set your own level for recoil and muzzle blast. No need for expensive ammo that can be hard to locate all the time. The .30-30 is pretty easy to reload and cases last a long time.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:59 PM
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Since you're referencing factory ammo, I will presume you don't reload. That's too bad, since it's really easy to bring down the recoil of a 30/30 (or a 35 Remington) if you load your own cases.

I was not aware of factory managed recoil rounds for 30/30, but the recoil is going to be about as light as you can get and still have a cartridge suitable for hunting deer. The other thing is making sure the stock fits your daughter well and make sure to get a GOOD recoil pad. A Pachmayr Decelerator or one of the Sims Vibration Labs "Limbsaver" pads will go a long way toward taking the "ouch" out of those 30/30 rounds.

Good luck and let us know how you do.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:46 AM
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Remington has a reduced recoil load and so does Hornady for the 30-30. They both use a 125gr bullet and are slowed down a bit. The Hornady CustomLite line and Remington Managed Recoil line, I'm not sure I remember what the velocities are though. Broom_jm's idea of a good pad is a good one, I've used the Sims pad before on a old 30-06 made in 51 or 52 and it worked great. Happy shooting !!
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:18 PM
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I'm interested in using this for an intro for my daughter. She did not care for my 35Rem with 200 grain factory loads recoil.
The .35 Remington is pretty much a pussycat, to anyone shooting a .30-06 with a 200gr bullet, or a .300 Winchester Magnum, but to a new shooter, the recoil can be on the mean side. Even a .30-30 hurts to many young and/or small frame shooters.

The managed recoil loads shoot well, and the bullets are designed to function reliably on game, at the appropriate ranges. They are accurate and lethal out to about 100yds, maybe a bit more.

But handloading brings a much larger performance envelope to the game.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:09 PM
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The .35 Remington is pretty much a pussycat, to anyone shooting a .30-06 with a 200gr bullet, or a .300 Winchester Magnum, but to a new shooter, the recoil can be on the mean side. Even a .30-30 hurts to many young and/or small frame shooters.

The managed recoil loads shoot well, and the bullets are designed to function reliably on game, at the appropriate ranges. They are accurate and lethal out to about 100yds, maybe a bit more.

But handloading brings a much larger performance envelope to the game.
TMan brings up a good point that I forgot about, I've tried the Rem Reduced Recoil in a 308 Win and at 100 yards it's accuracy was okay, not great but okay. When we tried to zero the gun in at 200 yards the point of impact was anywhere from 8-12+ inches different then at 100 yards. At first we were a bit confused and brought the target back to 100 yards and checked everything to make sure it was all tight in place, then shot it at 100 yards and got the same okay accuracy as before. Moved back out to 200 and same thing, so far off some of the shots didn't even hit the paper. It couldn't be shot beyond a 100 yards with any accuracy to even kill a deer.
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:29 AM
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TMan brings up a good point that I forgot about, I've tried the Rem Reduced Recoil in a 308 Win and at 100 yards it's accuracy was okay, not great but okay.
Good point Fred. I have only shot the 7-08 MR stuff in my own firearms, and started a friend off with .30-06 MR loads. Same results, they were OK at 100yds. From 50yds to 100yds they open up a lot.

Not sure if the .30-30 MR stuff is a 50 or 75yd load.

A managed recoil option could be the Speer 130gr FP loaded to the middle of the recommended range with something like 3031 or 4895. I've shot a couple deer with that bullet, my aunt has taken several "doe tag" deer from the back porch as far out as 125yds. Recoil is way less than 170's pumped to the max, and noticeably less than 150's.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:37 PM
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This is very accurate ammo grouping 2 inches at 100 yards in my Glenfield carbine. Recoil is very light. We use this set up at our gun club to train new shooters. I've not witnessed this but have been told that this soft tip ammo is deadly at 125 yards. Typical mushroom and chest organs turned to mangled mush.

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Old 02-11-2013, 05:27 PM
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Managed recoil loads...

My friends wife got her first doe w the Rem Managed recoil 125 loading...They are fine to about 125 yds,...If you can roll your own in the 30 30 or any other big game caliber I'd say go for it...I mixed up my ammo one day during deer season a few years back...Ended up using 110 grain bullets in a 270...Neck shot deer never knew what hit her just past 60 yards...Lighter weight bullets at modest distances can be very effective...The light weights seem less accurate at 200yds..So keep that in mind when using a hunting rifle designed for the med to heavy bullets...Mike In ct
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:26 AM
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I'm not sure if it's the geometry of the design of a 30-30 rifle,[winchester 94] or the cartridge itself, but I have found that the winchester recoils very hard from a bench rest with factory 170's, while if you shoot it sitting or offhand the recoil is much less...
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Truly a game getter cartridge, I too reload for the 30-30. Marshall's 160 FP bullet is very accurate, and the reduced load used for lead bullets make it a pussycay to shoot.

If you decide to reload,[ever] I also recommend loading some 110 grain plinkers to play around with. They are alot of fun with minimal recoil, and will hold accurate enough to say 125 yards to take chucks and whatnot.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:06 PM
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i made a couple of reduced loads with 130gr speer bullets and H4895 for my 30-30's, the lightest with 31 grains was clocked at 2100 fps at the muzzle for 1270 ft-lbs....haven't tried them on deer yet.
my 32.5 gr load was more accurate and around 2260 fps.
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