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Old 05-25-2010, 06:22 PM
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What would your guys hog hunting equipment be for example mine:

Rifle: Marlin 1894 in .44 mag with 240 gr soft points.

Pistol for backup: 1911 .45 acp with 230 gr FMJ loaded HOT!

Knife: Ontario Knives RTAK.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:32 AM
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Lots of gloves and knives. Hands get dirty and knives get dull. Firearms are somewhat secondary as we just shoot hogs as targets of opportunity. Anywhere from my wife's 6mm on the low end to my .444 Marlin on the large size; sidearms from the .357 to my .500 JRH. Just whatever I got the urge to bring that day.

4 wheel drive truck and cooler very helpful also
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:59 AM
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The most important thing I used to bring with me on hog hunts was a buddy or two...to help get the critters out from where they expired! Back then, we were hunting a large tract of private land, but didn't own an ATV. One hog my buddy shot had the unmitigated gall to run downhill, about 800 feet, and die in a dry creek bed, a long way from the road. We wound up quartering it on the spot, after trying to figure out how to get 200+ pounds of dead weight out of that canyon. From then on, we shot little hogs!
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:51 AM
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I have a hog kit I take. In it:
Butchering kit, Gloves, Knife sharpeners, Bone Saw, Strong Rope, ground sheet, Cleaning water, Basics of what you'd need to dress game, and it fits in a cooler. Other than that, Jeep, Communication device, Side arm, More Rope, Drinking Water, First Aid Kit, I'm sure there's more. When I get a big hog, I'll strap it to the bumper on my jeep and keep going. Oh, did I mention rope. Nice thing to have when the hog dies in a hard to reach place. And a buddy, I have been treed by hog that will wait for you to come down, my partner hunted a different area and came to the rescue when I called.
Rifle: Mosin M44, or Rem 700 in .270win
Pistol: Springfield XD40, or .357mag
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Lots of gloves and knives. Hands get dirty and knives get dull. Firearms are somewhat secondary as we just shoot hogs as targets of opportunity. Anywhere from my wife's 6mm on the low end to my .444 Marlin on the large size; sidearms from the .357 to my .500 JRH. Just whatever I got the urge to bring that day.

4 wheel drive truck and cooler very helpful also
Right on track. My 178qt Igloo marine cooler lives in the back of my 4x4 pickup during hunting season! A few Dixie Tri-Ball buckshot rounds also come in handy when an early season squirrel hunt turns into a hog hunt!
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:47 PM
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Pistol for backup: 1911 .45 acp with 230 gr FMJ loaded HOT!
Good as far as it went but I would lose the hot part of that sentence. No use tearing up your gun and a standard load will be more accurate and quicker on the second shot. Just remember that straight on head shots are a no-no. Pigs is tough but they ain't bullet proof. Their head almost is when you are standing dead front facing it. 22 LR will do shooting down on the head but 9's and 357 JHP's have been known to bounce off the front of the skull. A hot load will only make more noise and be no more effective. I'm assuming by hot you mean more than 20,000 PSI
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:52 PM
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I meant not whimpy not necessarily tearing gun apart, probably 900-950 fps.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:23 PM
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Possibly the advice that many PH's in Africa tell their clients...bring the biggest gun that you can shoot accurately with. A poorly placed large caliber is not as effective as a well placed smaller caliber.
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:38 PM
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Ok Hipshot what that got to do with the Original post?
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:54 AM
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I think he means that you need to treat hog hunting like African hunting. Hogs are tough, mean, stubborn, like my last girlfriend.
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Well I have been to Africa and collected more than my share of hogs in several states. Now the .44 mag is OK on pigs (under 150-lbs) but a big bore hog, that is ticked off and coming at you, needs more than a .44mag even out of a rifle. I have 3 rifles that I will hunt hogs with and they are the 1895 Marlin .444, 1895 Marlin 45/70 and my model 70 Winchester bolt gun in the .458 caliber loaded up with 350 grain bullets. A hunter never knows, when that big hog is coming around the bend of the creek and you better have enough gun, trust me on that fact ok.

I have personally seen a big hog that would go 275 or better, get knocked down by a 165 grain bullet from a 30-06 at 70 yards. The hog 2 minutes later rolled over and took off like a cat who's tail was lite up with coal oil. The hog was not recovered either, blood on the ground but it went to a trickle and then dry.........no hog. To many people take hogs for granted and don't realize what they are capable of doing in short order.

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Old 08-03-2010, 01:32 PM
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Yup, that's what I was thinking Tracer... there are plenty of stories about 400lbs hogs being shot with .44Mag and just getting mad. One article I read a while back, the guy had 240gr JHP .44Mag lever action on his hog hunt and a 400lbs+ boar came out. The first shot stuck in its shield and he put four more shots in it to put the boar down, all while it was flopping and going crazy. The author said it was not the best feeling in the world having that big hog not going down easy. Next time, he said, he's bringing a bigger gun.

If you're on the ground hunting them, make sure you stay near trees where you know you can scamper up and wait (low branches) at least 5' off the ground for a while (branches to sit on and stuff).
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Old 08-03-2010, 06:31 PM
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Good advice. Use Enough Gun. Buddy of mine went boar hunting a number of years ago with a Smith M29 .44 Magnum. After registering 5 solid hits the boar was down. So my friend did the obligatory Big Game Hunter photo op and put his leg on top of the pig. Pig reared it's ugly head up and sliced my friend's calf, right to the bone. Another shot to the back of the head finished the situation. And 40 stitches or so later, he went home.
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Yup, that's what I was thinking Tracer... there are plenty of stories about 400lbs hogs being shot with .44Mag and just getting mad. One article I read a while back, the guy had 240gr JHP .44Mag lever action on his hog hunt and a 400lbs+ boar came out. The first shot stuck in its shield and he put four more shots in it to put the boar down, all while it was flopping and going crazy. The author said it was not the best feeling in the world having that big hog not going down easy. Next time, he said, he's bringing a bigger gun.

If you're on the ground hunting them, make sure you stay near trees where you know you can scamper up and wait (low branches) at least 5' off the ground for a while (branches to sit on and stuff).
You identified the problem, jacketed hollow points. Virtually all 240 JHP bullets are designed to open easily on whitetail deer and often fail to penetrate adequately on hogs. With big hogs deep penetration is the name of the game. For that you need a solid hard cast WFN for penetration and tissue destruction.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:54 AM
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Yup. Right gun, wrong bullets. A .44 mag will kill any pig alive - with correct bullets. I've shot a pretty good sized pig with a 200 grain .35 cal cast bullet - at about 600 fps! Putting it right below his eye settled the matter
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:22 PM
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first hog hunt

going to reynolds,missouri,first hog hunt.can't wait.what is the best rifle,and load to bring...have enough to choose from,but want sound advise from an ole pro
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:40 PM
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Whatever you have. Learn hog anatomy before you sweat the guns and loads. I've killed them with about everything, from a 6mm Rem on the low end to a .458 Win mag on the upper end. Actually, .22 rimfires too if you count shooting them in traps. If you're a deer hunter, resist the urge to shoot them behind the shoulder. It's all guts. Bust a shoulder, or shoot them in the neck. Use good bullets and you'll be fine. Don't even think about using hollow points unless it is a monolithic bullet like a Barnes "X".

List specific guns and loads if you want feedback, chances are someone has already tried the combination. I'd tell you what I've tried, but it's a long list, and would probably forget half of it.

Bring more than one knife too.

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:49 PM
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We took two Missouri Sows recently. Wife used a Ruger 44 magnum Carbine, 40-50 yard shot in the ear. We used Mag Tech 240 gr sjsp ammo. I was a bit over 50 yards with my winchestr model 100 .308. Using core-loct 180 gr SP ammo.. Lung/heart shot. Neither hog moved more than 5 feet from where it was hit. They both weighed in at 300+ lbs.

I am on the trail of a Ruger Model 77 in 44 magnum, since it appeara my wife is the keeper of the semi-auto Ruger Carbine. Both will really do the job during Indiana deer season.

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:58 PM
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OK, I haven't hunted since I was a kid, mostly deer and coon, and I thought hog hunting would be a lot of fun. Coincidentaly, I just bought a Mosin-Nagant. I'm assuming that shooting 7.62X54R steel core rounds would be perfect for hog hunting. Before I go out and make a big mistake by using the wrong equipment, I thought I would ask around. Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:18 AM
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OK, I haven't hunted since I was a kid, mostly deer and coon, and I thought hog hunting would be a lot of fun. Coincidentaly, I just bought a Mosin-Nagant. I'm assuming that shooting 7.62X54R steel core rounds would be perfect for hog hunting. Before I go out and make a big mistake by using the wrong equipment, I thought I would ask around. Does anybody have any thoughts on this?
Welcome to Shooters Forum, Dave. And thank you for your work as a medic! Whether military or civilian, you provide a commendable service.

The rifle and cartridge you've chosen is a good one for hog hunting; copper jacketed, steel core ammunition, is not! That bullet would make a .311" hole going in and probably .312" going out. Properly placed, it would certainly kill a wild hog, but unless you happened to hit the CNS, it's going to squeal like crazy and run for miles!

What you want is a heavy-for-caliber, exposed lead tip, or maybe even a copper solid, but one designed to EXPAND, hold together and penetrate well. In other words, you want a bullet that's going to fly true, hit where ya aimed, penetrate through and through, but expand considerably between one piece of tough hide and the other. This will result in the massive trauma and blood loss that puts a critter down quickly and humanely. Zipping a 30 caliber hole through it is gonna kill it, sure enough, but where and when it dies is anyone's guess...and you, with no pork tenderloins to show for it!

If you don't handload for your MN rifle, getchya some 180gr soft points for hunting. Save the steel core rounds for banging away at the range.
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