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Old 02-10-2011, 07:48 PM
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Are the Puma 44 mags with 24" barrels worth double the money of the Rossi's?
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:36 PM
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No - Rossi used to make the Puma until last year I believe and now Chiappa from Italy makes them. The Rossi is as good as or better. Check out Steve's Gunz for the Rossi M92 and infomation and upgrades http://store.stevesgunz.com/
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:08 AM
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Are the Puma 44 mags with 24" barrels worth double the money of the Rossi's?
HUH ? Where'r you shopping ? Down here, the 24" octagon bbl rifle is close to the same price, maybe $100 more than a 20" carbine
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:41 AM
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I was hoping that the Rossi's were good, as the cost is half the Puma's. $450 is a good price for an octagon barreled 44 mag! I was aware of steves gunz. But I did notice he has a lot of new products available. I already have his CD. I have a 454 casull. His new safety replacement plug with a peep sight is cool!
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I've bought two Rossi/Puma's lately, the only issue I'm having is the magazine tube jumping forward with my heavy loads. I fgure all I need do is drill the pin hole deeper in the forward end to fix it. Not a problem with std 240 grain bullet loads.
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When LSI use to import the Brazilian Rossi model '92s, they called them Pumas. Then, Taurus bought Rossi and LSI was forced to find another manufacturer. They teamed up with Chiappa of Italy to import them and used the Puma name on them too.

While the Chiappas look really nice, Steve has been working with Chiappa to sort out some internal issues they have. So, if you want a pretty looking one, buy a Chiappa version but if you want to shoot it buy a Rossi version.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:43 PM
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Question Is the Chiappa Puma worth the extra money?

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When LSI use to import the Brazilian Rossi model '92s, they called them Pumas. Then, Taurus bought Rossi and LSI was forced to find another manufacturer. They teamed up with Chiappa of Italy to import them and used the Puma name on them too.

While the Chiappas look really nice, Steve has been working with Chiappa to sort out some internal issues they have. So, if you want a pretty looking one, buy a Chiappa version but if you want to shoot it buy a Rossi version.

I've got two LSI Rossi 357mags, a 20" carbine and 24" rifle and after following Steve's DVD they both are slick as snot.

Handled & fired a "new" Chiappa Puma at the range and talked with the owners & the first thing that was starkly obvious to be a lot bigger (& definitely not better) is the price tag........almost double for the Chiappa !!

Is the Chiappa prettier? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder & it depends on what you like.

I own a couple of Rossis (.454 & .357 carbine) & like the satiny blue finish that hasn't been equaled on a production lever gun since I took my last Belgium Browning out of the box in the early 1980's.......again MY opinion.

If you really like the case hardened look then Chiappa is your animal. I prefer the Rossi blue.

My Rossi in .44 Mag in my opinion was just as smooth & shot better (more accurate) than the Chiappa counterpart at the range. The groups I shot with my Rossi were tighter at 25 & 50 yards.......could be because I was used to the feel of my Rossi but I've been shooting for a few years & think it was because the Rossi was a more accurate gun.

I'm not about to make profound declarations of superiority based on test firing 2 guns but my nod so far goes to the Rossi.

I'm sure this subject will be jawed on considerably in the following months as more range & field data comes to light.

Rossi Pumas are being bought up where I'm from & are getting hard to find......especially the 16" carbines. I've already had a decent offer for my Rossi 16" .357 Mag carbine.........I'm keeping it.

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Thumbs up Rossi .454 Casull model magazine successfully redesigned

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I've bought two Rossi/Puma's lately, the only issue I'm having is the magazine tube jumping forward with my heavy loads. I fgure all I need do is drill the pin hole deeper in the forward end to fix it. Not a problem with std 240 grain bullet loads.
If that was the .454 Casull model the whole tube magazine was redesigned.

Not only was the destructive disintegration from recoil problem fixed but the newly designed threaded screw on cap tube magazine with the removable follower & spring assembly housing allows for loading ammo down the tube like a Marlin 39A .22LR rifle rather than laboriously through the side port.

Shot lots of full power rounds out of my Rossi .454 Casull & it is still as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar.

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If that was the .454 Casull model the whole tube magazine was redesigned.

Not only was the destructive disintegration from recoil problem fixed but the newly designed threaded screw on cap tube magazine with the removable follower & spring assembly housing allows for loading ammo down the tube like a Marlin 39A .22LR rifle rather than laboriously through the side port.

Shot lots of full power rounds out of my Rossi .454 Casull & it is still as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar.
Mine are both octagon barrelled rifles(20" & 24") in 44 mag, not carbines.
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Talking My new Chiappa 92 won the "ammo eating" contest

Just purchased a Chiappa Mare's Leg Takedown rifle/pistol through MAIL ORDER (quite legal in Canada) & upon checking it out was pleased to observe that it would chamber all the .44 Mag. & .44 SPECIAL ammo configurations I tried in it without even a hint of a hang up.

My .44 Mag. Rossi has problems digesting some types of ammo & will not cycle the Hornady 225 grain .44 Mag. FTX ammo which the Chiappa swallowed easily.

So the ammo versatility prize goes to the Chiappa 92 hands down at least in this limited field trial.

I've ordered a full length stock & a butt plate for the Chiappa & I will jury rig it to fit the gun & match the for-end wood as closely as possible so I can use the gun as either a normal rifle (12" bbl) or a Mare's Leg by simply switching out the stocks.

** NOTE....the 12" barrel rifle configuration is quite legal in Canada & does not raise a single eyebrow among the Mounties. I have a double barrel 12 gauge shotgun with 10" barrels which is a legal in Canada as paying taxes........none of that NFA tax stamp nonsense

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The .44 Rossi shoots .44 Sp and .44mag interchangably and handles well. No issues that i've noticed. Even get a little "recoil push" on the shoulder. Like the .357s in Marlin lever it seems "under-powered" for any sort of distance - not exactly a flat shooter. But, some guys just need to have that "pistol/rifle interface! maybe way back when it would have been a good thing to have pistol and carbine in the same round, but the .45-70 or some other longer range powerhouse would have been a good idea.
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The .44 Rossi shoots .44 Sp and .44mag interchangably and handles well. No issues that i've noticed. Even get a little "recoil push" on the shoulder. Like the .357s in Marlin lever it seems "under-powered" for any sort of distance - not exactly a flat shooter. But, some guys just need to have that "pistol/rifle interface! maybe way back when it would have been a good thing to have pistol and carbine in the same round, but the .45-70 or some other longer range powerhouse would have been a good idea.
Fixed the problem with my Rossi 92 in .44 Mag.

Apparently I had an attack of the smarts & replaced the yellow plastic magazine follower in my Rossi 92 in .44 Mag with one of Steve Youngs metal followers that was intended for my .454 Casull.

I stored all the metal followers I got from Steve in one jar.

The .454 Casull follower went into the loading tube of the .44 Mag all right and the gun would feed cartridges but after I shot the rifle "dry" the oversize follower would jam under recoil in the bottom of the magazine tube where the tube joins the receiver & prevent me from loading more cartridges.

I had to open the action & free the stuck magazine follower with a light tap of a brass punch through the ejection port after each firing cycle before I could load any more ammo.

After I replaced the oversize magazine follower with the correct follower I had no more problems with the gun & it will feed any & all .44 SPL & .44 Mag ammo I put in it.

I nominate myself for the Levergun Dypchit award of 2011.
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