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Old 03-19-2012, 06:50 PM
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Hi I am thinking of purchasing a Rossi model 92 16 inch carbine in a 357 calibre but have heard that some of them are "lemons" since being made in brazil with the sights not being correct and jamming cartridges as well as having an action that isn't quite so smooth. I don't want to spend money improving it if I go ahead and buy one and would rather spend the extra and buy a Winchester 1892 20 inch carbine has anyone had experience with both these rifles?.. All advice is welcome. Thanks
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:18 AM
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Life's about choices - you can pay up front, or later.

Not all Rossi 92's are rough - besides which, they cost 1/3 the price of a Japanese Winchester/Miroku 1892 and/or 1/5 the price of a gennie Winchester 1892/92.

I'm selling this .357 Rossi 16" Carbine, that I upgraded the sights on :



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Old 03-20-2012, 11:46 AM
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Rossi, I've shot them, and was unimpressed with the fit and finish.

I have a Wincheter 1892 original. So maybe that makes comparison difficult. I've also shot the Henry lever guns in 44, same as the 357 model. they are very nice, and would be my choice if I wanted a 357 older looking lever rifle.

I also have a Marlin 1894, in 44 mag lever and that is another fine gun, not the same look as the 1892, but a fine rifle with a century of history (aka 1892). I know they were made in 357, I had the 357 rifle in my hands at the same time and unfortunately bought the 44. The 357 is a nice midium lever round with the ability to feed inexpensive 38 rounds.




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I have three Rossi's in 44 mag. Are they perfect ? No, but they're well worth the money you save over buying the current offerings from Winchester. I'd buy one anyday over the current Winchesters.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:34 PM
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I've got a Puma M92 .38/.357 with a 20" Octagon barrel and is Color Case.

It's been accurate and dependable from day one and I highly recommend it.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:54 AM
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I also own a Rossi "Puma" model 92 [clone] in .44-40 Win. Bought it back in 1983 and have had no issues with it at all. Very good and well built carbine!
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I've got a Puma M92 .38/.357 with a 20" Octagon barrel and is Color Case.

It's been accurate and dependable from day one and I highly recommend it.
One of my 44's is the same "short rifle" gotta be the sexiest of the clones out there.
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COSteve, they really look nice. Glad they work so well for you.
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I had a Rossi 92 in 44-40 for a few years it was a great little gun. No complaints about fit or finish from me it was actually really well put together.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:31 AM
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I have a Wincheter 1892 original. So maybe that makes comparison difficult. I've also shot the Henry lever guns in 44, same as the 357 model. they are very nice, and would be my choice if I wanted a 357 older looking lever rifle.
An original Winchester 1892 was never chambered in 357mag or 44mag so you're comparing apples and oranges. Yes, an original Winchester 1892 is nice but in decent condition it's also worth 5-10 times what a Rossi costs. So much so that I'd not even consider shooting one routinely if I owned one, especially because the steel used back then wasn't as strong as it is now. So, you're unfairly comparing an original collectable piece of history with a modern, mid priced reproduction shooter. For what it was designed for, the Rossi is a reasonable clone; fairly priced, strong, rugged, and accurate.

As far as considering a Henry 357 or 44mag Big Boy, while I have and enjoy a little Henry 22lr levergun, their Big Boys are a disappointment in two major areas. Yes, they have the slick actions, great customer service, and nice walnut stocks but they also are 2-3 pounds heavier than the Win '92 clones and also don't have a loading gate in the receiver. Rather, they are loaded like a 22lr; each round dropped down the magazine through a slot near the front. Both the lack of a loading gate and their overweight nature make them 'non-starters' in my book.
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Hi I am thinking of purchasing a Rossi model 92 16 inch carbine in a 357 calibre but have heard that some of them are "lemons" since being made in brazil with the sights not being correct and jamming cartridges as well as having an action that isn't quite so smooth. I don't want to spend money improving it if I go ahead and buy one and would rather spend the extra and buy a Winchester 1892 20 inch carbine has anyone had experience with both these rifles?.. All advice is welcome. Thanks


I like my Rossi .357 & .45 LC . I have about $ 425 in them , each . I am guessing the Winchester 92 ( Japchester ) is 2 or 3 times that price ?

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Old 04-16-2012, 01:15 PM
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I like my Rossi .357 & .45 LC . I have about $ 425 in them , each . I am guessing the Winchester 92 ( Japchester ) is 2 or 3 times that price ?

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Actually only 2.4 times the price of yours ($1,025.84 at Ables) and that includes their stupid rebounding hammer, terrible trigger, and tang safety too. However, if you add the few hundred dollars it costs to get rid of the rebounding hammer and bring back the half cock knotch vs $58.40 for a DVD and the parts to slick up the action and the trigger on a Rossi and you're over 3 times as much and you still have the harsh action and the terrible trigger.

If you decide to loose the tang safety, you're talking a few hundred dollars more to strip the action, remove the safety, weld up the large hole in the tang, and then re-blue the tang and receiver vs $19 for a bolt safety plug for the Rossi.

Yep, the Japchester '92 is a real bargin and a piece of history . . . . . . well, maybe not because all those 'lawyer additions' change the rifle from something classic to something . . . . . . . .
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You are 100% correct on all counts.
In the past 12 years I've had 5 Rossi's pass thru my hands. Picked up #6 last Sat. They were imported by 3 different importers and so there were minor differences but they were ALL great guns.
I won't say how many I've kept, after all I've got more grand kids and great grand kids to consider.

I've no doubt that some guys have been unlucky and picked up a scab which is unfortunate but shouldn't influence a mature consumer. But crap happens. Make lemon aide! I've had some Winchesters and Marlins which needed work or moved on. Big deal!!
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I have a USRAC Winchester 92 and my dad has a Rossi 92, both in .45 colt. In my opinion, the Winchester has better fit and finish, but they both go bang every time the trigger is pulled. And they are both accurate, as well. I picked up the Winchester used, but in excellent shape, for about $550, if I remember correctly. Honestly, if I was going to pay full price for a new 92, I'd get the Rossi.

For what it's worth, a couple people that attend the CAS matches I go to have .357 Rossis and they occasionally stove pipe with .38 specials. Maybe a couple lemons, I don't know. My model 94 .44 magnum does the same thing with .44 specials, but is utterly reliable with magnum cases, so I'd guess the Rossis are reliable with magnum cases (as other people here don't seem to have problems).
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:28 AM
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Thanks for the feed back everyone greatly appreciated, as I made my mind up and was content on purchasing a Rossi I dropped into my local gun store on the way home yesterday and saw the owner had a range of Chiappa 1892 lever action carbines that'd just arrived and as the quality was better than the Rossi ans the price only $115 extra ( Rossi $940 Chiappa $1055 ) I think I'll opt for the Chiappa but I thought I'd ask anyone out there first if they had any experience with these rifles. All feed back is more than welcome ( note :these are Australian prices )
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the feed back everyone greatly appreciated, as I made my mind up and was content on purchasing a Rossi I dropped into my local gun store on the way home yesterday and saw the owner had a range of Chiappa 1892 lever action carbines that'd just arrived and as the quality was better than the Rossi ans the price only $115 extra ( Rossi $940 Chiappa $1055 ) I think I'll opt for the Chiappa but I thought I'd ask anyone out there first if they had any experience with these rifles. All feed back is more than welcome ( note :these are Australian prices )
Do as you see best , but here is what the prices are on Rossi's . Add the freight and what ever a local FFL charges for transfer .

Braztech-Rossi Rifles


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940 for a rossi what a screwing **** i can buy two of them for that. we have chiappas from cimarron they were only in the 750 to 800 range.
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Australian prices!!! Willy gene I live in Australia where everything is much dearer than the u.s.a and also my closest firearm dealer is a good 4 hour drive away ( 330 km ) those are good reasonable prices compared to a lot of wharehouse's in my capital city..
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Give Steve Young a call and ask him.

Rossi 92 Specialist, Nate Kiowa Jones a.k.a. Steve Young - Professional Gunsmith

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COSteve is so on the money. I own a Rossi 357, and I bought Steves Gunz DVD kit, and my Rossi is slick beyond belief. And it shoots 38's just as well as it does 357's. I have a can of Watco Danish Oil in the garage......now I have an idea.
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