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Old 12-15-2005, 11:10 PM
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T/C bullet mold reference


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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a reference for T/C bullet molds on the internet or in a book, etc. It sure would be nice to be able to look up the mold # and find out what weight bullet the mold is suppose to make.

If someone has such a reference, maybe they could send me a photocopy of it (one page reference table).

Anyone know what weight bullet comes from a T/C mold #7375 in a .50 cal Maxi-Hunter bullet?

Thanks & Happy Holidays,
helenajoe
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:08 AM
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Round Balls:
#7350 .490"
#7354 .530"

Maxi-Balls:
#7280 .45 - 240 gr.
#7290 .50 - 370 gr.
#7292 .54 - 430 gr.

Maxi-Hunters:
#7375 .50 - 350 gr.
#7376 .54 - 435 gr.

Bye
Jack
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:05 AM
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Hi everyone,

Wow! Thanks Jack for the T/C bullet mold references. I really appreciate your post.

I've got other muzzleloading cast bullet molds that I thought were T/C molds but they could be Lyman molds. Anyway, mostly the molds just list a 3-digit number but some also list a caliber (sometimes on the spruce plate).

Does anyone know a reference for 3-digit muzzleloading cast bullet molds?

Here's some molds I have or am wondering about:

#712 in .36 cal Maxi-ball --- what is the bullet weight
#732 in .50 cal --- what is the bullet weight
#499 in .45 cal --- what is the bullet weight
#844 in .45 cal --- what is the bullet weight

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helenajoe
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:10 PM
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Found reference for T/C molds

Hi everyone,

I finally found a reference for T/C molds numbers and made an observation that helps clear up some confusion. First the observation: T/C molds often have a 3-digit number on them but this is NOT the mold number --- in fact, the mold number is NOT on any of my T/C molds.

For example, my .36 cal T/C Maxi-Ball mold #7276 does NOT have the number #7276 on it, but instead has the number 712 on each mold half.
My .45 cal T/C Maxi-Ball mold #7280 only has the numbers 499 on each mold half.
My .50 cal T/C round ball mold #7250 only has the numbers 155 on each mold half.
My .50 cal T/C Maxi-Hunter mold #7375 only has the numbers 737 on each mold half.
My .32 cal T/C Maxi-Ball mold #7273 doesn't have any numbers on it at all, instead it just has .32 cal on each mold half.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:35 PM
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I wonder if T/C had different mould suppliers at different times, and used a separate set of numbers for each supplier's moulds? I got those numbers out of the #20 catalog of 1993.

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Jack
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:40 PM
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T/C Mold reference

Hi everyone,

What I thought was a T/C bullet mold #732 was actually for a large pair of T/C mold handles. Also, #7320 is for a pair of T/C mold handles, not a bullet mold.

Here's the T/C mold number reference stuff I found:

T/C Maxi-Ball Molds
#7273 - .32 cal, 103 gr Maxi-Ball
#7276 - .36 cal, 128 gr Maxi-Ball
#7280 - .45 cal, 240 gr Maxi-Ball
#7290 - .50 cal, 370 gr Maxi-Ball
#7292 - .54 cal, 430 gr Max-Ball

T/C Maxi-Hunter Molds
#7374 - .45 cal, 255 gr Maxi-Hunter
#7375 - .50 cal, 350 gr Maxi-Hunter
#7376 - .54 cal, 435 gr Maxi-Hunter

T/C Round Ball Molds
#7330 - .32 cal, 47 gr .315" Round Ball
#7360 - .36 cal, 65 gr .350" Round Ball
#7340 - .45 cal, 127 gr .440" Round Ball
#7350 - .50 cal, 175 gr .490" Round Ball
#7354 - .54 cal, 230 gr .530" Round Ball
#7355 - .56 cal, 265 gr .550" Round Ball
# ???? - .58 cal, 279 gr .570" Round Ball

Either T/C never made a .58 cal Round Ball mold or I just couldn't find a reference that listed it. Anyone know if T/C ever made a .58 cal Round Ball mold and if so, what the 4-digit mold number was?

If I made a typo in the above mold reference info, please post a message so everyone will get the correct information.

If anyone has info on the 3-digit numbers on T/C bullet molds, please post that as well. T/C 4-digit mold numbers seem to actually be a catalog part number and that number is NOT on the mold.
Instead there is a 3-digit number on each half of mold, so a reference to help sort that confusion out would be very helpful if someone could post that info.

Thanks and Happy New Year,
helenajoe
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Old 02-12-2006, 01:14 PM
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I haven't been able to determine if TCA ever had a 58 cal round ball let alone a mould. When they had the Big Boar in the early nineties they were selling a 555gr .58 maxi-ball and a 560gr .58 maxi hunter. But I don't think there were moulds sold for these either. At least they didn't make the catalogs.

I always wondered if they ever made an moulds for the "off weights" in the maxi-hunter or maxi-ball which were offered in 45, 50, & 54? I suspect not.

I recall seeing a Lyman tagging on one of the molds on the accompanying TCA literature, so I think the molds were made by Lyman, at least at some point.

I can't shine any light on the three digit mystery either. I suspect this is the manufacturers model number but I will see if it corresponds to a Lyman mold number.

Can someone give me a reason for TCA dumping the moulds? Was it lead libaility issues or related to selling more expensive sabots?

If anyone has any of the following I'd be willing to swap or buy:

NO.
7273 .32 Cal Maxi-Ball
7292 .54 Cal Maxi-Ball
7376 .54 Cal Maxi-Hunter

Tonka
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Old 02-13-2006, 11:24 AM
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I haven't been able to determine if TCA ever had a 58 cal round ball let alone a mould. When they had the Big Boar in the early nineties they were selling a 555gr .58 maxi-ball and a 560gr .58 maxi hunter. But I don't think there were moulds sold for these either. At least they didn't make the catalogs.

I always wondered if they ever made an moulds for the "off weights" in the maxi-hunter or maxi-ball which were offered in 45, 50, & 54? I suspect not.

I recall seeing a Lyman tagging on one of the molds on the accompanying TCA literature, so I think the molds were made by Lyman, at least at some point.

I can't shine any light on the three digit mystery either. I suspect this is the manufacturers model number but I will see if it corresponds to a Lyman mold number.

Can someone give me a reason for TCA dumping the moulds? Was it lead libaility issues or related to selling more expensive sabots?

If anyone has any of the following I'd be willing to swap or buy:

NO.
7273 .32 Cal Maxi-Ball
7292 .54 Cal Maxi-Ball
7376 .54 Cal Maxi-Hunter

Tonka
Tonka...I'm like you...in a sense. I have always thought that T/C never made their own mould, while Lyman has gone trough several numerical designations of their own moulds over the years, but were still the "major" manufacturer of T/C moulds.

I have two Maxi-Ball moulds, in their "original" boxes, (.50 & .54) and although I have looked, I can not determine exactly who made these moulds. The sprue cutter, pins and mountings are the exact same as other Lyman models, so I have always suspected Lyman actually made the moulds.

I could be way off base on this, and if I am, I would certainly appreciate someone setting us straight, as it has been an issue that has been much discussed in my own crowd, with no real good answers.

I have a particular Maxi-ball mould from Chambers with a designation I would personally like to see on all moulds. It is simply .549430.....size; .549, and weight 430gr. using pure lead. Although some use this designation, some require a chart.

The information given here has been great for many casters, I feel sure. Especially that of Jack, and helenajoe.....good post fellows!

Respectfully, Russ...
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Old 02-13-2006, 09:45 PM
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Curiousity got the best of me and I went looking at the T/C molds. My 36 cal. maxi-ball in the original T/C box packaging is labeled Lyman 436 on the mold. It also has the letter "P" stamped. This mold probably dates back to the mid-70's since the box only has the Hawken, Patriot and Contender references. Some of the later boxes reference the Seneca and Renegade.

I've actually called Lyman to inquire about ordering some of the T/C style molds but got the run-around and pawned off to the names of some of their moonlighters who will custom a mold for you. Everyone has to make a living but it was too rich for me. So I will try to scrounge around to fill out the rest.
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