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Old 01-09-2008, 03:15 AM
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Is Black Mag3 available?


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I did extensive searching on the web, and haven't found any for sale. Does anyone know where I can find some for sale? Thanks!
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:47 PM
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Magkor is the current manufacturer of Black Mag 3 and this is their website:

http://www.magkor.com/

There is contact info and one listing for availability: http://www.mdm-muzzleloaders.com/index.html

Elsewhere on this forum another poster stated that Magkor & MDM where negotiating a merger...'dunno.
(http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=41961)

I was quite pleased with this powder when I tried it several years ago and I still have a small stock of it.

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Old 02-09-2008, 01:13 PM
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Latest Info... When?

Excerpt from a recent reply to my inquiry re: Black Mag 3 availability from MagKor/MDM:

"All the current powder available is being consumed for the exclusive use in producing the ThunderCharge Consumable Muzzleloading Cartridge...
Shipping of the BlackMag3 powder is scheduled to commence later in the year.

John Gawlik"

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Old 02-13-2008, 05:28 AM
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Wow, talk about putting all your eggs in one basket! They don't think anyone wants loose powder these days?
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:24 AM
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Thumbs down

Elvis,
It probably hinges on financing...MDM is putting up the $$$ so long as their cartridge thingies get priority.

Their demographics may show a big market for such items because most who muzzleload or have considered doing so are not very well informed and are impressed with the idea of just loading one item then priming... almost as simple as centerfires. Pellet ease taken one step further.

Never even considered trying pellets, let alone those doo-hickeys they're hawking... too limited and strictly amateur hour as far as I'm concered.

My letter of Jan 30 to them:

"I'm a convinced user of Black Mag 3 from the time it was produced by the original maker, ARCO Powder. My understanding is that MagKor has retained all the original qualities, maybe even enhanced them.

I am a long time muzzleloader and am not at all enamored with pellet type configurations.
Is this fine product to be available as conventional granulated powder?"


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Old 02-14-2008, 02:25 AM
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WELL SAID hAMMERSPUR i second you on pelletized powder. getting harder and harder to distinguise between modern rifles and m/l`s. kinda taking the sport out of things in my opinion. pellet powders, electronic ignition, whats next heat seeking projectles. guess its **** to get old. take care
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:57 PM
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BlackMag3 availability

I went to the Eastern Outdoor Show in Harrisburg,Pa back on Feb.10th and met Craig Sanborn of MDM Muzzle Loaders Inc. which as you have heard is the company you must contact to get information on BlackMag3. He had an exhibiters booth there featuring MDM Muzzle Loader rifles and BM3. I was getting on him a little about the poor marketing and availability of BM3. I have been using this powder for the past couple of years and for me it's the best powder on the market. I have only been able to buy it at one sporting store in my area and they don't really know anything about BlackMag's attributes as they have never tried it and apparently gotten no feedback from anyone who has.So as I said I met Mr. Sanborn at the outdoor show and while talking to him he offered to sell me all the BM3 I wanted right there for the hefty fee of 40.00 per lb. Well as I have said I use it and really like it, but at that price I had to decline his offer and told him in no uncertain terms that I thought that was way too much for it. I have been apparently buying mine from an older stock at 30.00, which I thought to be a bit pricey but it perfomed so well I didn't mind. Mr. Sanborn informed me they were soon to launch a marketing campaign and expand the dealer base as well, but I must say as much as I like this powder I'm going to have to really talk myself into paying this much for it.
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:37 AM
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OUCH!!! $40.00 per pound?!
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Old 03-01-2008, 07:07 AM
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Even $30/lb. is WAY too expensive for me to even try. In the event I really like the stuff, I'll regret even trying it!! LOL
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:21 PM
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Unhappy BlackMag3

I agree that 30.00 per lb. was still expensive but when you consider that 777 is selling for somewhere in the mid 20's range and BlackMag3 beats the crap out of it for clean shooting and much easier cleanup after shooting it was worth it to me but at 40.00 I think these guys at MDM have gone way over the top. It's pretty disappointing to say the least.
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:46 AM
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I agree that 30.00 per lb. was still expensive but when you consider that 777 is selling for somewhere in the mid 20's range and BlackMag3 beats the crap out of it for clean shooting and much easier cleanup after shooting it was worth it to me but at 40.00 I think these guys at MDM have gone way over the top. It's pretty disappointing to say the least.
Disappointing, YES. But as you say, BM3 "beats the crap out of" the others by such a wide margin (especially Pyrodex... vilest filth ever!) that I will probably bite the bullet and stay with it nonetheless.

Blackhorn 209 shows promise, but still remains an unknown plus
cheap it ain't!
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