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Old 08-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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Right now I am hunting deer with a tc hawkens 50 cal. I am using a 250 grain powerbelt aerotip bullet with 60 grains of goex FFF powder. My question is, is this going to shoot the bullet fast enough to go through the rib cage and get to the good stuff or should I shoot 90 grains of powder.

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:39 PM
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Most of my loadings for 50 caliber whether round ball, minnie, saboted or the powerbelts was way above your loading. One would shoot a round ball decent at 80 grains but needed more for better accuracy. Most were over 90 grains of black but none were over 110 grains. You would need to experiment to find what charge gives you the best accuracy. A 60 grain charge would be on the low end and shouldn't be used on any long range shots normally associated with full charge loadings.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:28 PM
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I have the same gun and presume you have the same 1:48 twist.

Your 60 GR 3F charge may work fine for shooting paper but lacks sufficient punch for accuracy and a sure humane kill especially for sustained yardage bullet stabilization if you are shooting conicals. To move on up to a higher charge volume will also require you to switch to 2F powder.

I have not had consistant accuracy with round balls in this gun and therefore don't use them in my Hawken for hunting. I have filled a handful of whitetail tags with a load of 110gr 2F GOEX under a 300 gr maxi hunter; all shots under 100 yds. This has been my favorite load to hunt the traditiional PA flintlock season. Although it's nice to always have a few more shots left because of conserving powder when shooting paper, I have found that in the hunting arena, you can't be stingy when it comes to powder.

BTW, What part of PA are you from?
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:11 AM
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Thanks for the help guys.

Next time I go to the range to shoot flintlocks I will try some different loads. Right now my dad uses the same gun as me but shoots 60 grains of goex fff powder with a round ball. The round ball works real well for him and he has killed several deer with the load and I am pretty sure most shots when the hole way through. Whenever I tried to shoot that load out of my flintlock the ball was very loose when I put it down the barrel and it wouldn't shoot too good. So I decided to use a powerbelt like my pap was using but I found out that he shoots 90 grains of powder with a 250 grain bullet instead of 60 grains of powder.

P.S. I live in south central pa and do most of my hunting here but I sometimes hunt in northern PA (Elk county, Cameron county, Potters county area.)
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:57 PM
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--60 grains just isn't enough to make the Powerbelt work. It takes right at 85 grains FFFG to expand the PB to engage the riflings. Also, 60 won't give much if any expansion. 100 grains FFFG and the 348 grain PB works nice.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:55 AM
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I also have a TC Hawken. I shoot Hornady round ball (.490) with 90 gr. of goex XX powder. What helped my accuracy is going to TC pillow ticking patches (.018 thick). Most patches that I can find are either .010 or .015. I've only been shooting flintlock for a few years but love it. I got lots of good info from these websites:
cainsoutdoor.com
muzzleloaderbuilderssupply.com
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