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Old 10-21-2009, 05:20 AM
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Is it OK to clean pyrodex with rubbing alcohol?


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My father in law is a life-long hunter and muzzleloader. He shoots pyrodex and cleans his muzzleloader with rubbing alcohol. I tried it and it seems to work great. Is this OK? Does rubbing alcohol clean the bore effectively and thoroughly?
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:24 AM
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Good 'ole soap & water is the best, but since rubbing alcohol is water based that would be okay also. After cleaning oil the bore before storage.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:05 AM
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I will swab a traditional rifle with straight alcohol on the range because it will pull the ruff fouling and at the same time dry out of the barrel quicker them most solutions.

I clean my Pyrodex RS barrels at the end of the day with soap and water like Davers said. After I have the barrel clean, I do like to swab again with alcohol because it will help displace any residual moisture and make the barrel easier to be bone dry. After I am sure it is dry I then use a good gun oil to protect it.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:34 PM
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I swab between shots with both sidelocks and inlines with 91% isopropyl alcohol. It does a great job. At the end of a shooting session I give the bore a temporary cleaning with the alcohol, followed by an oil patch. However, the final thorough cleaning (later in the day or the next day) is with soap and water.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:19 AM
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As long as it doesn't hurt the finish, go ahead. If it's where you can remove the barrel, you might want to wander down to a auto parts store and pick up a can of the spray type carb cleaner. It does a good job cutting carbon and lead fouling.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:13 PM
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Notice that Mr. C said "remove the barrel". Iv had a few things ruined by carb cleaner that got away from me and I can only imagine what it would do to a composite stock. Brake cleaner may work better though. Some carb cleaners leave a film after they dry but brake cleaner drys quickly and cleanly.
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:35 PM
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I know this is a very old thread. But I shot Pyrodex today out of my Lyman 50cal percusion. I have scrubbed and scrubbed but I'm not getting half as much black gunk on my cleaning bore patches as I did using real black powder. So I sprayed the inside of the barrel with carb cleaner. Then I ran patches and brush down and got alot more gunk out. I then really went to work oiling the barrel with about four patches. She's clean. Is the carb/engine cleaner bad? I'm not risking any type of explosion mixing these things in my cleaning am I?

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Old 01-02-2012, 07:18 AM
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Using carburetor or brake cleaner is very common with muzzleloader shooters. A lot more then you might guess. Just don't get the stuff on the stock, plastic sights, or in your eyes. I use the two mentioned cleaners because they will pull gunk, but also they remove plastic from the bore.

Normally in a sidelock rifle I use a commercial cleaner called Simple Green. You mix it as strong as you like with water. This stuff really pulls the fouling out of a barrel, is cheap to use (more so then the store bought muzzleloader products), you can use it all round the house, it smells good, and it does work. After all that be sure to wipe the bore dry and then oil the rifle.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:08 AM
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Carb cleaner and brake cleaner are all or in part made of xylene which will melt most plastics and resins, therefore, keep them away from stock finishes, sights, etc. That said, those that shoot sabots with black or a substitute will get plastic fouling mixed with BP residue, and carb cleaner will take it out of a barrel in short order.
As for alcohol, I would second Cayugad's procedure, clean with "soap" and water, rinse thoroughly, and use a saturated alcohol patch to displace any water before oiling.
I am especially careful cleaning Pyrodex when I use it, as it can leave a different residue in the bbl, so I just make sure that when I'm done with the soap and water session, the patches are coming out WHITE, no trace grey streaks or such, and I've used a bronze brush with the soap and water after hogging out the majority of the soot, I don't take any chances with Pyro.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:43 PM
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Watch a video on you tube where the guy was saying to use a mixute of vinigar in your water when cleaning after using pyrodex. Always just used hot water and dishsoap before. Anyone else hear that before?
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There are so many home cleaners out there. One I occasionally use is M. A. P. Which stands for a mixture of Murphy's Oil Soap, isopropyl alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide. This combination cleans up a rifle well. Some people have said that map will cause flash rust. I have not experienced that. It makes a good swab solution also. Windex also works. Commercial cleaners such as Simple Green, 409, and I have a jug of just soapy water. They all work.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:39 PM
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warm soapy water.

You can run some alcohol down the bore afterward to make sure the bolster area is good and dry.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:54 PM
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I was out getting some range time Saturday and do use pyrodex. I got back and cleaned the barrels up with soap and water. After the patches were coming out white I alcohol swabbed and oiled her up. Today I noticed a package on my porch from Track. I had ordered a few items and a bore paste, J-B bore cleaning compound. My curiosity got the best of me and I grabbed a rifle and ran a patch of the j-b down the barrel. Worked it back and forth about 10 times and pulled er out.... I was shocked! The thick black crude was incredible. I ran some more patches down the barrel and the black junk just kept coming and coming and coming. After about an hour I'm thinking to myself, does this stuff turn black or what? How in the world can this be possible? I noticed in my 54 that right at the spot where you'd seat the ball on the powder the patch would hang up, I finally got this out. Had to use wd-40 to get the paste out, then an alcohol patch and oil. In the process I discovered that Windex doesn't work to well. Anyone else ever used this paste? Did I just polish this bore breaking it in or what?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:09 PM
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When shooting I use windshield cleaner. The good blue kind. Spend the whole dollar. Its mostly water with a little alcohol and I always have some in the truck.The higher cost ones aren't as good for this. Rubbing alcohol works good too. You don't have to use it straight.You can top it off with water a few times. Remember that most of the fouling is some kind of salt and water gets that. The alcohol is just to cut the lube and wax. I never found the fake powders to be any less fouling of easier to clean than real black powder. Just harder to light. no more click...boom black make em goes booom. Swab with a damp patch, a dry one and right back to shooting. Round ball and a spit patch with target loads and you may never have to swab it till you get home. Then hot water is still the best and cheapest. It doesn't have to take very long and be some big ordeal. A dishpan of hot water, swab it till the black stops coming out. clean hot water and repeat. dry patches till dry. grease the bore when it is dry. If it takes you 10 minutes total you're doing it wrong. I like to use a old brass brush with a patch over it. Fits better and never gets stuck or comes off.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:18 PM
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The blackness on a JB Bore Paste patch is the fouling and oxidation from inside the barrel. After you cleaned the bore paste out, I bet it was nice and smooth in there and if you were able to look it probably had a good shine to it.

A trick I use at the range. Lets say your done shooting and ready to stop. Before you put the rifle away or go inside, lean it against a table on an angle. Now squirt some Windex or what ever cleaner you have .... down the barrel. Be sure to cock the hammer and let the windex run out. Now saturate a patch and swab the bore of the rifle with that patch. I do two patches. Now go and clean the rifle inside. And later post how hard it was to clean the rifle.

When I do this, it is often I can have that barrel clean in three or four patches once back inside. And I shoot black powder.
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My father in law is a life-long hunter and muzzleloader. He shoots pyrodex and cleans his muzzleloader with rubbing alcohol. I tried it and it seems to work great. Is this OK? Does rubbing alcohol clean the bore effectively and thoroughly?
Yep, an alcohol dampened cleaning patch removes a whole lot of powder fouling regardless of if you used a substitute like Pyrodex or a traditional black powder like Goex. If accuracy falls off or loading becomes difficult just swab the bore with an alcohol patch and then you're good to go.
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