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Old 11-20-2011, 04:31 AM
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rifled slug vs. muzzle loader


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Deer gun season in Ohio is either muzzle loader or shotgun.
Given the choice with the rifled barrel shotguns or inline muzzle loader
with respect to accuracy in 100 yards, what would be your choice ?
If you could sight some reasons, it would be helpful too.
Is the inline muzzle loader as impervious to inclement weather as
the shotgun shell is ?
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:06 AM
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Te in-line ML that shoot regular smokeless powder would be the most energy, and yes most shotgun primer ignition systems would be ver insensative to snow/rain.

Compared to a black powder ML with a round ball, fired in a tradional rifle gun, that would be more accurate than either the 12 ga or the in-line. I'm sure others would dis-agree.

I've killed lots of whitetails with shotgun/rifled slugs and blackpowder muzzle loaders. I prefer the accuracy of the rifled/patched round ball. But if it is teaming down rain, I might grab my 12 ga 870.

Any of these would be more than you need for a deer, they are really very easy to kill.

Might make your decision on what gun do you shoot the best? what gun is the most accurate for you?
Bullet placement is your real concern on deer.
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:32 PM
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The one big difference nowdays with the advances in rifled slugs in a shotgun is speed of reloading/multiple shot capability. The in-lines with worked up loads and sabots are very accurate at 100yds. The newer shotgun bbls with new slugloads are also very accurate. Both are weather resistant, both have more than enough energy to down a deer quickly(shot placement is the biggie). The in-line muzzleloader, even with load tubes, etc will take very much longer to reload than even a single shot shotgun, much less a pump or semi-auto. I'm a big fan of kill them with the first shot, but cannot deny the advantage of the slug gun. That said, if you wanted to take advantage of muzzleloading for elk, mule deer, pronghorns, etc in some other state, the shotgun wouldn't do you any good at all. So it really comes down to what you want to do , if you want the most efficient deer system for Ohio, and that is your only consideration, I'd go with the shotgun, scoped and state of the art. Just my $.02...good luck with your choice.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:44 PM
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Yep, either are accurate enough. I have both and I only use the ML guns for ML season. I have a buddy though that often uses his Traditions Pro-hunter for all seasons. I used only one bullet this deer season and got one deer. As stated above, with big bores especially, just put the bullet where it needs to go and it's a null point.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:47 PM
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Lets look at your situation. If the shots are 100 yards and under, they make slug barrels that shoot extremely accurate out to 100 yards. And a scoped shotgun is indeed an accurate and as all know, hard hitting weapon. Plus there is the advantage of the follow up shot if needed. And of course as you mentioned weather proof.

A new inline muzzleloader is accurate to 100 yards also if you have a good load worked up. A scoped inline muzzleloader is good to 200 yards with a good accurate load and a scope on it. The idea of a follow up shot is of course something no really there, but if you do the shot right with either weapon a follow up shot is not necessary 99% of the time.

The weather question is different. Even if the rifle is cared for, and loaded properly.. there is always the chance that it might not go off. Especially for instance if you don't shoot that day and the next day the same load is in the rifle. Now you have to question how well you trust the rifle. Also the ease of loading and unloading is much easier with a shotgun.

Also for a muzzleloader to be accurate, you have to work up a load. Some people find this hard to do. Other seem to tune a rifle in with in a day on the range. It all comes with experience. But a shotgun is much more easy to get an accurate load then a muzzleloader. So only you can decide what you kind of weapon you want to use,

Personally a muzzleloader is a challenge. And to me that is part of the sport. I like to shoot muzzleloader and find them an interesting part of the hunt.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:49 PM
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Thanks very much for the replys guys. Very much appreciated.
With the time constraints on my life I think the shotgun will be the
best avenue for me.

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Old 11-23-2011, 04:28 PM
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People might say that you have 2 more shots with a sluggun but really the first is the most important shot i would go with the inline with a cva optima .45 i can shoot accurately out to 275 yards. not so much with a slug gun
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Old 11-27-2011, 04:37 PM
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My Encore will group 3 inches @ 200 yds with MMP orange sabots and 325 gr Leverevolution 458 bullets. 100 grains of BH209 launches this combo at 1700fps. My shotgun groups 4 to 5 inches at 100yds. Bottom line, if you're absolutely certain you won't shoot more than 100 yds, the shotgun is more convenient. When given a choice though, I go to the muzzleloader. I like the piece of mind in case I get a longer shot and my shotgun is a single shot anyway so I don't care about shot number 2 with either gun.
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:19 AM
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Muzzleloader is my choice for a few reasons. I have more confidence in my ML, because I shoot it a lot more. A pound of powder, bag of sabots, box of bullets and a tray of primers can last me a good while. The same amount of quality sabot slugs could run you 2-3 times more. Plus there is alot more smoke with a ML. JMO
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:03 AM
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Hope this helps

I could sit here & tell you that you will get more for your money with a good inline muzzleloader & list countless reasons why but no need to I have videos of why on youtube. If you want to make a educated decision on this purchase & want some cold hard facts that make sense to anyone willing to listen. I have done this research for you Go to Google search type this in midwestprowler with no spaces in it go to my youtube channel & watch the videos there about muzzleloaders start with the video named Muzzleloader vs Shotgun part1.AVI then watch part 2 and the slug gun ammo & muzzleloader ammo video also.

I think you will be much happier with a good inline muzzleloader setup once you see all the pros & cons if your willing to put in a little effort & watch the videos. I hope this helps with your decision I use to be a diehard shot-gunner but after getting the muzzleloader that I reviewed in the videos on youtube & all my hours of research knowing nothing about muzzleloaders I made the videos to help others & avoid the pitfalls I would have ran into without researching. I know more about muzzleloaders & the facts as to why they are better then a shotgun now then I ever intended to but that's ok. I would rather be safe & have a good understanding then a fool with a gun & some ammo from the ammo mill .

Hope this helps Keep safe & happy hunting P.S. Most people don't know this but a shotgun is measured by Ga short for - Gauge due to its varying bore diameter with the exception of the .410 shotgun. Guns measured by cal like a .50 cal inline muzzleloader is just that from start to end of bore .50 in diameter they don't vary that can make a big difference when shooting sabot sleeved ammo.

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:02 AM
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inline of course!

Those slug shot guns can cost you $5 to $8 PER shot.
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