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Since the early 1970's, I've tried just about every brand and bullet weight in our 30-30 carbines. Had great luck with performance of Winchester 170 grain Power Point. But never hunted with this unique hollow tip ammo by Remington. Have you ever tried it? Impressions: accuracy, size of wound channel, penetration?

Thanks for your input.
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I have never used the newer Remington HP,s but I have used the older Mushroom Cor-Lokt,s with great sucsess on bigger big game. These were THE controled expansion bullet of old. I have experenced less sucsess using them on smaller deer sized game. They just SEEMED too tough for light game. The newer ones I assume are just standard cup and core Cor-Lokt's with no lead exposed.
 
#21 ·
win 170 grn



I have 2 marlin 336's, One a 1964 modle and a newer 2000 one . Both do not like the Remi core locks. But love the win 170 or 150 grn silver tips. I get a thighter group with the win amo. Remi groups good but wider and a few flyers. Nothing wrong with remi amo, it,s what your rifle likes .
 
#4 ·
I haven't seen these 170gr hollow points...are they available for reloading? I can follow the notion that a 170gr may be just a little too tough for deer and not expand enough and would be interested in trying these bullets too.
I also had great success once with the winchester old style 150gr silvertip bullets....a nice heavy beamed 8 pointer, jumped and shot on run with the ole 30-30 and peep sights (i probably got a little lucky too :). I don't recall if I shot 3 or 4 times, but the first and last rang true breaking both front shoulders....bullets recovered but in pieces. Makes me wonder if just a little more weight would have been better...like 160gr
 
#6 ·
Im a big corelokt fan, especially with the 30-30, iv shot 6-8 deer with the 150 grain corelokt, and one with the 170 grain corelokt, al blew up the lungs in an impressive way. all quick kills with great blood trails for the few who didnt drop in site. my only concern with the corelokt is once i had one missfire while shooting paper...only once though. thats all i will buy for deer.
 
#7 ·
I've used 150 grain Silvertip (.30-30) bullets in a 7.62X39 m/m bolt action rifle; and harvested several Deer with this load. All one-shot kills range under 100 yards. A friend of mine uses 150 grainers in his Winchester '94 .30-30, and has great success with bagging Deer.
 
#9 ·
I have owned and loaded .30-30 ammo for cousins, brothers, neices, and myself, for about 40 years. When it comes to purpose designed factory loads for the .30-30, Winchester PP's and Remington Core-Lokt's are as good as it gets. Handloading Hornady, Speer, and Sierra 150/170gr bullets, they work as well as the factory stuff, and usually shoot just as well. But not actually any better.

The difference between 150gr and 170gr bullets might be apparent on a fair size black bear, or to the guy who actually uses his .30-30 for elk. Which a surprising number of people do.

On deer, it won't make a bit of difference. Power Points, Silver Tips, FP, HP, etc. they all work about the same. Just fine.

I keep an inventory of bullets for my .30-30. Sierra 150gr/170gr, and a couple thousand Magnus cast for fun shooting. On the rare occassions I've purchased factory ammo, (like the time I arrived in Maine, and left my ammo home :-(, I bought Winchester PP's). They shoot to the same POI as my handloads. But I don't think there's much difference, if any, on game.
 
#12 ·
Certainly an interesting looking bullet!
 
#11 ·
rem amo

I'v shot both out of my M336-30/30. Best groups i have are with the Win. silvertips 150grn.
Rem amo i get a lot of flyers, not saying there bad, but my rifle like winchester amo. Shot deer with both, I like the way the win, amo expands.
 
#17 ·
The 125gr. Federal hollow point is designed to be a varmint/predator round according to the manufacture. I don't think it would be too advisable to use it on a deer.

If I remember right all the hollow point .30-30 loads are designed so a shooter who uses a particular weight soft point on deer can use a hollow point on smaller stuff without changing their sights.
 
#20 ·
I seriously doubt that there are any bad factory bullets for the 30-30, its been around so long that bullets for it have been perfected over the years, and the bullet makers and factory folks have got it down pat...Same with the 32 Special, 25-35, 38-55, and the 32-40 and a few others...It not hard to make a bullet that perfoms at 2000 to 2500 FPS, problems arose at the 3000 FPS mark and above, but they pretty well got a handle on that these days.

The 150 PMPs are basically a Barnes X by design, maybe the contracted those bullets from Barnes, and Barnes sells a bullet just like that, and your right they do work, they work on deer and they punch nice size holes through elk btw.
 
#22 ·
I've used the same load in my 1976 Marlin® 336C 30/30 since the day I bought it new in K-Mart® for $79.95+tax. Shoots a 3 shot ¾" group from the bench @ 100yds all day long. Because it shot so well and killed so well; never felt the need for anything else.....
• Federal® Power-Shok® 170gr RN (#3030B)
 
#24 ·
I said PMP in my above posts, but the ones I have are Starfire factory ammo with what looks to be Barnes X bullets..Someone told me PMP makes Starfire bullets?? They sure are accurate in my old trapper 30-30 and they will punch through an elk, even at a last rib shot to the off side and leave a rather large exit hole..I think they upped the 30-30 to a .308 or such or so it seems on the effect it has on animals but I'm just judging on two cow elk and a bull and several deer, not all of which were shot by me but friends and members of my family. Fortunatly I purchased quite a few boxes of that stuff on sale.
 
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