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Old 05-15-2005, 08:51 AM
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Longest "accurate" shooting with iron sights...


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The question comes to mind....what were the longest (best) shots anyone has made...with iron sights ? This could be target shooting...or shots on game. I will exclude military target practice....as I don't think 600 metre shots on 6 ft. diameter targets are all that impressive (unless one could consistently place the rounds near the centre).

As for me, I have always hunted with scoped weapons (until now)...with the exception of a shotgun, with slugs. I had a Rem. 870, with a rifle-sighted, 20" smooth-bore barrel. With Brenneke slugs, this was pretty accurate. I used to play about..target shooting off-hand with this weapon at 100 yards ...(though, not hunting at this range). I was intrigued as to the maximum effective range of this rig. Well, with practice...and alot of guesswork (holding very high....as the trajectory of these slugs was like a bell-curve)...I managed to achieve a number of 6" or smaller groups...with a personal best of 3.75 inches (for three shots). Of course, I could not do this every time.
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Old 05-18-2005, 11:48 AM
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the longest accurate consecutive shots i made were with a .22 LR. target was 2'x3' shot made from 1000' i was aiming about 2' above the target

shot with remmington hoolow point golden bullet brass plated shells

it took about 6 shots to get on target.
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Old 05-20-2005, 11:45 AM
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Metalic sight Long shots

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I do not know what it would take to impress you tumbledown, but what is known as long range shooting, NRA classification, begins at 600 yards and goes out to 1000 yards. Mind you the x ring at 600 is 6" in diameter, and the 1000 yard x ring is 10". These distances are routinely shot by marksmen w/ micrometer "metalic" sights and Master and High Master level shooters routinely keep 50% or more of the shots in the x ring. Not from a bench, in prone with the use of a sling only for support. Cannot rest forearm on ground, matt, etc. and these matches concist of 60 shots in three strings of 20 shots w// unlimited sighters in 30 minutes. You can take all the sighters you want, but the clock is ticking and it is up to you to manage the time as you see fit. My personal best is a string of 20 with a score of 199 w/ 14 X's at 1000 yards. Rifle used was Rem. 700 /308, Jewel Trigger, Master class Stock with Krieger 30" barrel, 1/12 twist, Sierra 190's, Lapua Brass, 210M primers. Rear Sight was Warner and Front Sight was Anshutz w/ post and 1.5 lens in front. (old eyes need to see the target board number at 1000 yards so as to not crossfire)
As for keeping the shots in the"center" on military targets at 600 and beyond, that is not a problem for practiced, trained marksmen. Done every day.
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:49 PM
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My answer has to be qualification with the M14 as a Marine Corps boot at Camp Pendleton in early 1968. On qualifying day I shot all bullseyes from the prone position at 500 meters...BUT...as referenced above, I performed the dreaded crossfire on one of those bullseyes.

Not to worry: That kept me from scoring Expert and thereby from applying for Sniper School. As a 2-year enlistee I was headed straight to RVN. So not going as a sniper may have saved my life since I ended up going as a Rifleman but landed an OJT position as Company Clerk, HQ Co., 7th Marines. When I returned home in Oct. 1969 I saw my 5-month old son for the first time. He will turn 36 later this month.

The rest of the story: The errant 500 yd. bullseye I fired (mistakenly, for sure) kept the guy next to me from being a Non-qual. Being just a few weeks after the big Tet of 1968, it wasn't a pleasant distinction for a Marine to fail to qualify with the rifle. I guess it saved him from six kinds of h*ll for the rest of boot camp.
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Old 05-21-2005, 06:30 AM
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In the 1870's, at a place called Adobe Walls in the Texas Panhandle, during a fierce indian attack, a buffalo hunter named Billy Dixon knocked an indian off his horse at a reported range of 1538 yards. His rifle was a Sharps 50-90.

A now disproved story, was that of a Civil War sniper, using a muzzleloading rifle with a scope sight, killing a Confederate general at Shiloh, at the range of one mile. It is now known that this never happened, although the story surfaces from time to time. It is true however, that the British Whitworth rifle on many occasions created casulties among Artillery crews at 1000 yards. In 1864, at the battle of Spotsylvania, General John Sedgewick was killed by a Confederate sniper, shortly after saying to his troops "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance". The range of this shot is unknown.

Early in the Revolutionary War, at the Battle of Bunker Hill, a group of British Officers rode to within about 300 yards of the American line, thinking they were safe. Suddenly rifle balls were buzzing so close that they were forced to bid a hasty retreat. This was probably Dan Morgan's men with their Kentucky rifles. Later in that same conflict, Tim Murphy, at the battle of Saratoga did kill a British general with his Kentucky rifle at a range said to be at least 300 yards.
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:29 AM
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the lattest "longest shot" is of a sniper team in afghanistan a confirmed kill at about 3 miles.

i have heard this only at one place and that was on fox news.
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Old 05-24-2005, 05:52 PM
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The 500m line in the Marine Corps is the farthest open-sighted known-distance-fire I have accomplished.

I shot consistently with my service rifle at all distances to maintain an "expert-rating" every year, or every time I shot for score. I was a Marksmanship Instructor[PMI] as an NCO and I was sent to Quantico later as a senior SGT to become a Small-Arms Weapons Instructor. It was there that I become very intimate with my marksmanship, especially the 500m qualification phase. Learning to "call-your-shot" is very important in mastering and harnessing your complete capability in long range fire, both with iron-sights and optics. This will be extremely helpful later on...once you have a solid foundation in sight-alignment and trigger control...when afield with your hunting rifle.

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Old 05-28-2005, 09:36 PM
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I am impressed, gentlemen. Now, let's narrow the focus, a bit. How about the longest successful shot YOU have made....iron sights ONLY.... on game (or on enemy personnel). Obviously, distances are not likely measured under combat situations....so honest estimates will suffice, for those whose best shots were achieved in such conditions.

I ask only because I am curious...and I wish to get a feel for the longest, on average, distance at which (most of us) shooters might feel comfortable taking a shot (with iron sights). For me, as I stated before, iron sight distances have always been rather modest. Since I have gotten rid of all of my other guns except my "sporterized" M48 (equipped with iron sights)... I am interested to know of other's experiences in this regard. I consider MY practical maximum, on deer-sized game (with this rifle) to be about 125 yards...which will work OK, given the area in which I hunt.
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Enemy humaniod target approx 200mts across a ricepaddy.Using a L1A1(SLR) ! Pro shooting Goats at a measured 300mtrs with a 303 PAT14.
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Old 06-02-2005, 02:31 PM
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This weekend went to the range and was busting clay pigeons at 330yds with Marlin 1895 Cowboy and 250yrds with Winchester Model 71. Both with reciever peeps. Of course not everytime, but consistantly.

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Old 06-02-2005, 06:15 PM
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the longest shot i made was with my trusty .22 i shot a very large dog at apx 1/4 mile i will be the first to tell you that this was a 100% luck shot i am really not that good trust me.
i hit the dog and it just kinda ran off no real damage was done. i guess the bullet lost to much speed.

i just fired to fire mostly i did not think in my wildest dreams i would even come close. i did not think i even aimed high enough.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:42 AM
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Best rifle iron sight shots- crow sitting in the fork of a dead elm tree w/ JC Higgins 108.03(Stevens) open sight .22 at 100+ yds. Strait through the chest.
3 perfect bulls out of 5 w/ .22 U.S. military (Peep sight) at 50ft smallbore
NRA shoot. Missed the other 2 by one shot.(5 shots per bull)

Best revolver iron sight- 5 out of 6 at 10" target w/ S&W Mod19 .357 at 100+ yards.

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Old 08-13-2005, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gomer_pile
the lattest "longest shot" is of a sniper team in afghanistan a confirmed kill at about 3 miles.

i have heard this only at one place and that was on fox news.
wow!! what were they using for sights on that shot??
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:03 PM
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Are people using iron sights a dead breed? JP
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:28 PM
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My personal best in the game fields using metallic sights only, came Memorial Day 1994 when I harvested an Idaho Spring Black Bear at 383 lazer-ranged yards with a 1903A3 "custom-by-chainsaw" rifle wearing an old Redfield receiver sight and a modified military front sight. Shot taken from sitting position, resting across knees in a hasty-sling with back braced by a large cedar log. A very memorable day!


Interesting thread.

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Old 08-20-2005, 06:00 PM
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Drilled a large crow at 225yrds. with an M1 Carbine ( Universal ). He was across a large pond, and the first shot hit the water about 75 yds. in front of him, and on the second shot he rolled right off the limb. I was leaning on the roll bar of my Jeep for the shot, and my response; " ****" !!!!!!!
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:10 PM
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Impressive, gentlemen ! I did this target at 50 metres, with some of the shots being for sight regulation, with my M48 (which I just re-stocked). I haven't gotten a chance to shoot at 100 metres, yet. Several of the (3 round) groups were less than 1". The squares on the target are 1", by the way.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:22 PM
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:13 PM
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Just yesterday, at 100 metres. "Sporterised" Yugo M48 rifle, with iron sights. This is a new load combination, that I discovered by accident.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:29 AM
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Just yesterday, at 100 metres. "Sporterised" Yugo M48 rifle, with iron sights. This is a new load combination, that I discovered by accident.
Hi, I use the Yugo 48 as a brush gun. But I would like to know about your load for longer ranges. Can you give some info?

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