.45-70 Pile-Driver!

Marshall Stanton · #1 05-22-2005, 07:36 PM

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.45-70 Pile-Drivers!

alyeska338 · #2 05-22-2005, 07:46 PM

Marshall,
The link takes us to "The Sportsman's Bible". Not sure if that was your intention or if you have a 45/70 article prepared.

ribbonstone · #3 05-22-2005, 07:48 PM

Good deal...more weight...big straight case just seems to be better at driving heavy bullets than light ones.

Think I may have to re-think my BP only 45-70 status.

Marshall Stanton · #4 05-22-2005, 07:57 PM

Thanks Dave, the link's fixed.... just got carried away trying to get things formatted properly!

God bless,

Ranch Dog · #5 05-29-2005, 05:47 PM

Outstanding bullet Marshall! Guess I'm going to need to try it in my 450 Marlin...

kdub · #6 05-29-2005, 06:32 PM

Hmmmmmm....................

My 1895LTD1 just might have to try a few with the H4895 (have lots of it on hand) and see if my shoulder is up to 525 gr PILE DRIVERS!!!!

Ranch Dog · #7 05-29-2005, 06:38 PM

I figure they might be just the ticket for some of the boars I've been capturing with my trail camera!

Ranch Dog · #8 06-08-2005, 04:36 AM

Hey Marshall...

Would you verify the H4895 load? My RSI software indicates that the load is compressed to 144%!!!

Marshall Stanton · #9 06-08-2005, 08:56 AM

Michael,

Many thanks for the catch! Guess that's what happens when I am typing late. The data for the 4895 loads should read 52.5 grains! Indeed a typo.

The chart in the article has now been amended to reflect this correction, and last night I added some photos of the first critter hammered with the Pile Driver bullet!

Thanks for the catch! And yes, it is quite a peice of lead for the .45-70 and .450 Marlin!

God Bless

MikeG · #10 06-08-2005, 07:43 PM

Wow! That's quite a critter..... congrats, Matt!

Ranch Dog · #11 06-09-2005, 03:30 AM

Like MikeG said... WOW! Great trophy Matt. Great work on your part Marshall!

Mufasa · #12 06-09-2005, 05:56 AM

Thanks gents - I can't say enough good about this big 525 for those of us that enjoy such slugs! I wanted a 500 grain plus slug for this hunt but was not happy with what I was finding out there for designs, as most were really more target style bullets rather than broad-meplat hunting designs. Or, for the few broader ones I did find many would not chamber well in my relatively short-throated Sharps without deep seating past the crimp groove. Fortunately, a call with Marshall revealed him coming out with this beauty at just the right time to develop some good loads (mostly with 4198 and 3031) and be the first to try it out on a large critter. The fact that it shoots quite well in my Shiloh Sharps is an added, but really not unexpected bonus! I'm happy to see it finally made it to the Beartooth "storefront".

Great stuff as usual from Marshall - I took my first deer with a handgun over 10 years ago with a Beartooth slug, and I'm happy to also report I've been using them ever since!

Matt

markkw · #13 07-04-2005, 06:04 AM

Marshall,

EXCELLENT! Finally a heavy bullet with a properly designed meplat! The big flat meplat is the key to any cast hunting bullet. I'd even go so far as to say for any medium to big hunting bullet period based on my personal experience comparing pointed, RN and FN bullets of equal weight over the same exact load in the same gun. The FN's will make a larger wound channel every time.

Since I rarely hunt with smokeless anymore, I'd really like to see these offered in a flat base made from 30:1 lead/tin alloy, they'll surely be the ticket for the BP loading in my highwall.

oldfordjr · #14 08-27-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdub

Hmmmmmm....................

My 1895LTD1 just might have to try a few with the H4895 (have lots of it on hand) and see if my shoulder is up to 525 gr PILE DRIVERS!!!!

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Kdub:

I am Marlin 1895 (45-70) shooter myself, and I would be very interested in hearing your feedback on the H4895 loads with the 525 grainers. There is a load prescribed by the author on using H4895 @ 52.6 grains for obtainable velocities of 1800 f.p.s. To my knowledge, this is the only data available for handloading the 525's. Please let me know what you find out.

Thank you,

Joe

martin t potts · #15 09-29-2005, 08:14 AM

Marshall

Well done ..

The 525 Grain .. Pile Driver seems to be the answer for the 45/70
For over 40 years i have been making jacketed Bullet's and
it seems to me that you have hit on the right combo/ for weight
and design with the Pile Driver.

I should let you know that there are alot of us that own bullet compays that are now green with envy.

So i hope you don't mind if we start talking behind your back

PA Bullet's

Marshall Stanton · #16 09-29-2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin t potts

Marshall

Well done ..

The 525 Grain .. Pile Driver seems to be the answer for the 45/70
For over 40 years i have been making jacketed Bullet's and
it seems to me that you have hit on the right combo/ for weight
and design with the Pile Driver.

I should let you know that there are alot of us that own bullet compays that are now green with envy.

So i hope you don't mind if we start talking behind your back

PA Bullet's

Thanks so much for the encouraging words! The field reports are beginning to trickle in this year already, and the accuracy and sheer terminal thump of this bullet are amazing!

Hey, talking behind my back is fine..... so long as you share with us here too!

Thanks again!

God bless,

heavy duty · #17 12-14-2005, 02:10 PM

Is there a load that I could use in my Uberti high wall?Something in the area of 28000c.u.p.?

D Wright · #18 02-01-2006, 07:58 PM

Great bullet Marshall! I've been shooting .45-70s for about 40 years, and have to say this is THE bullet as far as I'm concerned. Best penetration of ANYTHING I have ever fired. I'll be buying more.

Moki · #19 07-01-2008, 07:27 AM

Great story...

I have bought and been loading the Pile-Drivers in my Marlin 1895GS rifle for sometime now my load gives me 1650fps at 10' from the muzzle.

I haven't shot any big game with this bullet yet but did have an experience that in a way I basically put my life on the line depending on the performance of this bullet.

On June 1 2008 @ app 9:15pm I shot an app 1000lbs interior mountain grizzly in Northern British Columbia with my 375RUM with 300gr Partitions the distance was app 230 to 250 yards.

About 20 minutes later we got to the spot that the bear ran into the thick bush and after only going about 10 yards into the thick stuff and due to how late it was we decided to stop and come back in the morning.

When we returned early the next morning I had my Marlin 1895GS loaded with 5 rounds of the Beartooth Pile-Drivers and my son had a short barreled 12 gauge 870 shotgun loaded with Brenneke slugs.

Along with our dog we started to trail the grizzly the bush was so thick that it was almost impossible to see my son who was only 8 - 10 yards from me and if we were lucky we could see up to 20 yards thru little windows in the bush.

Fortunately after only 75 yards we came onto the grizzly laying on it's back my shot the evening before had been as good as I could have made it and resulted in both lungs being destroyed and the off side front leg turned into a useless mess.

What made it so easy to go in after this bear for me was my total faith in the Pile-Driver bullets design and the smooth functioning that I have with it in my Marlin.

Thanks Marshall for the peace of mind that you gave me in this situation.

CC

Here is a pic of the bear the size of the bear is deceptive in the picture though it actually measures app 8' from nose to tail and if it were to stand up on it's hind legs it would stand app 11 1/2' tall.

You can see a couple of the Pile-Drivers on the butt stock of the rifle.

biggun1895gs · #20 07-21-2008, 11:29 AM

Nice kill, congratulations!