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zthang 04-03-2008 08:05 PM

Sage rats in central oregon?
 
Anyone here have suggestions on friendly places to shoot sage rats in central oregon? I'm down here right now in the Bend-Redmond area, and drove around over 200 miles today looking for a place; the answer I kept getting at the ranches was "Well, you can't shoot here, but there's this other place..."
We checked with a number of ranches to the west of Prineville, and also around Post, but no luck. We didn't get as far as Paulina.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.

Black tail 04-03-2008 08:30 PM

I have a buddy at work that hunts them somewhere on central/eastern Oregon, if I see him tomorrow I'll ask him where to go.

Dean Fay 04-09-2008 09:54 PM

East of K-falls in the Bonanza/Dairy area. I use to shoot them there each year until the friend sold his ranch. There were always lot of them.

Black tail 04-10-2008 06:47 AM

I talked to my buddy last night he said anywhere there is sage and alfalfa. He goes in the Baker city unity area.

myt-bird 04-10-2008 07:36 AM

Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is a sage rat?

NFG 04-10-2008 10:48 AM

Every one from the south end wants to go north, and those in the north want to go south...but rats are everywhere. The dumb ones have been shot out no matter where you go and the smart ones can spot a hunter a mile away. There are more in the outlying areas than close to the larger centers of population and I'm not about to tell you my favorite spots...last time I told a "friend" about a good fishing hole you can guess that happened....same with rats. :D

I was talking to a hunter from just across the Ca border the other day, at my favorite watering hole, just after a pleasant couple of hours...just me, a 17 HMR and my mutt...this was in the southern end of the state...He wanted to know where they were also. I asked him where to hunt in his state and he clamed up faster than I did.

Seems the grass is always greener.....:D

Couldn't understand...Eagleville and Cedarville are well know for opening up their fields this time of year and here he was 100 miles north...poaching...I won't mention how I know about those two places. :LOL.

Anyway...rats are where you find them...just like gold...and sometimes just as hard to find.

'Njoy

langenc 04-12-2008 07:05 PM

Sage rats, tree rats and ground rats are all the same RATS. Wonder how muskrats fit into the picture??

Inspector3711 04-13-2008 12:24 PM

myt,
 
a sage rat is a small rodent that we have on the east side of the cascades in the west (and probably other places). They are about the size of a chipmunk weiging around 8 ounces. Try shooting one at 400 yards sometime! Technically they are actually a squirrel (A Belding's ground squirrel) but we call them sage rats and right now they are thriving and numbers are increasing. Plenty of people hunt them with .22 lr, not uncommon to burn 500 rounds in a day. The real challenge is the long shot with a centerfire varmint rifle.

gggrove 05-03-2008 11:31 PM

I have a small vineyard in South Central Washington (Prosser area) that hosts quite a few sage rats. If anyone on this board would like to hunt them I will provide both permission and ammunition. I'm pressed for time so have taken to hunting them with a 12 gauge!

Vineyard hunting presents some special challenges, most notably shooting parallel to the rows to avoid severing vines.

My cell number is 509-788-5785.

kiddekop 05-05-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector3711 (Post 338136)
a sage rat is a small rodent that we have on the east side of the cascades in the west (and probably other places). They are about the size of a chipmunk weiging around 8 ounces. Try shooting one at 400 yards sometime! Technically they are actually a squirrel (A Belding's ground squirrel) but we call them sage rats and right now they are thriving and numbers are increasing. Plenty of people hunt them with .22 lr, not uncommon to burn 500 rounds in a day. The real challenge is the long shot with a centerfire varmint rifle.

We call them digger squirrels but in idaho they're called whistle pigs.I like to use subsonic 22 rounds for digger squirrels.

MarlinF 05-05-2008 09:01 PM

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in idaho they're called whistle pigs
And it looks like we're going to have a good crop of em to shoot at this year too from the amount we're seeing as road kill and running on he hillsides. Need to get out and shoot em before the grass gets too high.

Daozer 05-14-2008 12:30 AM

hi i was wondering if anyone knows where to go sqiurrel hunting in oregon i live near portlnad,oregon

TACITAL TIMMY 08-14-2008 09:05 PM

well i can tell you that in rogue vally medford area, you can ask all day for permishion at places you see alot of thoes ground rats, and they keep telling me thanks for asking , but they wont let me go . but i do have a lead on 1,000 acer ranch, i might have to pay 20 $ a day but this ranch has 1,000 of the rats, if anyone lives here ask me next week i have the guys adress and will be going out to talk with him this saturday, wish me luck,, tactical timmy

TACITAL TIMMY 08-16-2008 06:40 PM

well went to the lake creek area and went to the castcade cattlel co. ask for permishion , got treated like poo,, now this is blm land that is being leased to them for only cattle ,, humm can we hunt on ouar land that is being leased???? any help out there??? tactial timmy

kdub 08-16-2008 08:05 PM

You have a right to use BLM or National Forest lands, regardless whether it is being leased for livestock or not. However, you cannot cross private land to get to it without permission. If anyone tries to run you off the federal lands, report them to the game department.

TACITAL TIMMY 08-17-2008 08:20 AM

thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kdub (Post 363326)
You have a right to use BLM or National Forest lands, regardless whether it is being leased for livestock or not. However, you cannot cross private land to get to it without permission. If anyone tries to run you off the federal lands, report them to the game department.

you know this is a big deal .. the land i want to hunt is accesabal from the road it is blm not private.. but they put up no tresspassing , but that is my land and yours , how would you go about , making sure that i can with out getting in troble, who would i call ,, thanks for the help. timmy

kdub 08-17-2008 08:50 AM

As stated in my thread, notify your local game and fish department that the access is locked off with no trespassing signs. Be SURE the access is public and not private lands.

Oregon Uplander 08-30-2008 09:00 PM

Sage Rats
 
Thought I'd help here a bit...

Sage Rat = Caifornia Ground Squirrel

Whistle Pig = Marmot

Digger Squirrel = Ground Squirrel of several species (see Townsends, Washington etc)

hth

TACITAL TIMMY 09-25-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdub (Post 363326)
You have a right to use BLM or National Forest lands, regardless whether it is being leased for livestock or not. However, you cannot cross private land to get to it without permission. If anyone tries to run you off the federal lands, report them to the game department.

this is corect so have the game managers phone number, and your gps, you can get maps from blm for 1.50 each , and they have them in stock..

TACITAL TIMMY 10-04-2008 10:04 AM

well my season is over for ground squirrels, the dear hunters are in country, any they shoot anything ,,


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