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Old 05-28-2011, 01:26 PM
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So even though Global Warming has threatened to Freeze us all to death, here in the Col. Basin.
I killed 5 yotes, and 4 ravens with my Glock this morning.
Finally starting to look up as far a a spring goes..
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:32 PM
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Are you aware that ravens are protected?

And unlike crows, there's no open season. And even if they weren't protected, why shoot them? Just to kill something? Check your forum location, I don't know what you call it, but that's not hunting. Might want to check the hunting regs, too. Even if there was an open season for ravens, taking them with a pistol isn't legal. Later.

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:10 AM
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What do you use to draw the yotes to you? 5 seems like a great number!
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:19 PM
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depredation?
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:04 AM
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Not with ravens...

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depredation?
Unlike crows, they don't typically gather in large flocks and strip fields or trees. They tend to avoid areas of dense human habitation. They're also incredibly intelligent and engaging birds.

Part of my reaction to the OP came from my having raised a couple of young ravens about this time last year, birds that were injured falling from their nest. One survived and went on to join the local birds.

Although they do prey on other birds, and are very opportunistic about other food sources, they don't disrupt the balance and displace native species the way introduced species like starlings or English sparrows do. They're also part of nature's clean up crew, without the ravens, crows, magpies AND coyotes in my area, we'd be buried in road kill at certain times of the year.

The rest of my reaction came from my disgust with the killing something just to kill something attitude that's displayed too often by too many. I tend to operate on a live and let live basis, even a rattler will get a pass from me if it's not in an area I consider dangerous to me or mine. Same goes for coyotes in my book. Not saying I never shoot anything, I do, but I'm very discriminating about it, and if there's an alternative to killing, I'll go that route. But then, when I do kill something because I consider it a pest, I don't call it hunting, either. Later.

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:58 AM
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I was thinking of crows. Sorry I didn't make the distinction on Ravens. My attitude on live and let live is similar except I have a large vegetable garden that feeds 3 families that is routinely decimated by crows, starlings and rabbits that have to be controlled, fruit trees that are stripped by raccoons and other 4 legged creatures, chickens that are threatened by opossums, raccoons and coyotes. Coyotes also harass my wife's sheep and while they only rarely eat one they do give them heart attacks from stress causing them to drop dead more frequently. Finding a $400-800 investment dead in the morning is never a good day so if coyotes are seen on the property and a clean shot can be made you better believe they get killed. I hunt to put food on the table too and I'm not apposed to big game trophy hunting either. Birds of prey, unless they threaten livestock get a pass.
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:51 AM
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We're on the same page...

I have a flock of chickens and a large garden, I have six foot fences around everything, mostly to keep the deer out, and "my girls" go in a secure house at night so I've never had a predator problem in over 4 years, but if a coyote or raccoon did show up, it'd be the last mistake they made. My biggest problem with the garden is cats using my beds as a litter box ! They have no problem going over or through my fence. If I was certain they were feral, I'd just deal with it, but I'm afraid that at least a couple of them belong to my neighbors. So I usually just cuss a lot, and fantasize about pellets between the eyes .

Not a trophy hunter myself, but I'm not opposed to it, if you ever happen to drive through Twisp, stop in at Hank's Market and check out the trophies. Hank hunts all over the world, and the store is his display case . Nice guy, to look at him, you'd never think this is the type of person that's taken TWO African lions! Later.

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Old 07-21-2011, 08:53 AM
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Dave,

On the cat issue, I've had that problem too in the past and I've found a way to deal with it that works pretty well. Put carpet laying tac-strips in your garden and around the perimeter. the cats will step on them which they hate, and quickly be conditioned to pottying someplace else. Just remember they are there and don't step on them yourself.
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Just seen this, and I am surprised this post is still up. Isnt there a thing about this board not allowing people to post about poached animals? Poaching a raven is a serious crime, and 5 of them in one day!? No telling how many he kills a year, and with a glock nonetheless.
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:12 PM
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When I originally tried to write this post, I was attempting to multi-task(kids homework) which generally results in the story getting shortened and garbled.

There were 3 coyotes in the back yard that morning giving the cats a run for their money, they were the ones who got the glock. 2 more were called with a fox pro a few hours later(25-06). The birds were magpies, not ravens(English homework there, "quoth the raven..."). No, not even in my wildest dreams could I hit a bird with a pistol.
However when they are destroying cherries, I can hit them with a 12 gauge.
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thanks for updating this. good to have clarification, glad it was all a misunderstanding. Goodjob slaying coyotes
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...The rest of my reaction came from my disgust with the killing something just to kill something attitude that's displayed too often by too many. I tend to operate on a live and let live basis, even a rattler will get a pass from me if it's not in an area I consider dangerous to me or mine. Same goes for coyotes in my book. Not saying I never shoot anything, I do, but I'm very discriminating about it, and if there's an alternative to killing, I'll go that route. But then, when I do kill something because I consider it a pest, I don't call it hunting, either. Later.

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Well said Sir.

I live in a very rural area of NH, and can understand the coyote issue of killing house pets and livestock, and protecting your 'assets', but agree whole heartedly with your thoughts.
As a whole I would say 99% of the posters on the forum are ethical hunters, and abide by the laws. That is NOT to say the Darkker is not abiding. I cannot make that judgement from my computer....

Darkker;

I'll not lecture, don't take this as such... as it is not my intention, but please check your local laws to protect yourself and ANY non game non huntable species.
Kudos for protecting your pets from the coyotes..
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:42 AM
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Well said Sir.

I live in a very rural area of NH, and can understand the coyote issue of killing house pets and livestock, and protecting your 'assets', but agree whole heartedly with your thoughts.
As a whole I would say 99% of the posters on the forum are ethical hunters, and abide by the laws. That is NOT to say the Darkker is not abiding. I cannot make that judgement from my computer....

Darkker;

I'll not lecture, don't take this as such... as it is not my intention, but please check your local laws to protect yourself and ANY non game non huntable species.
Kudos for protecting your pets from the coyotes..
It doesnt seem like you noticed, but he did update this, and said he was shooting crows
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:07 PM
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:20 AM
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When I originally tried to write this post, I was attempting to multi-task(kids homework) which generally results in the story getting shortened and garbled.

There were 3 coyotes in the back yard that morning giving the cats a run for their money, they were the ones who got the glock. 2 more were called with a fox pro a few hours later(25-06). The birds were magpies, not ravens(English homework there, "quoth the raven..."). No, not even in my wildest dreams could I hit a bird with a pistol.
However when they are destroying cherries, I can hit them with a 12 gauge.
Understandable, and I'd do the same under the same circumstances. Just for your future info, magpies are also protected, although in this case, you were within your legal rights due to exceptions for depredation. If you ever get curious about what birds you can and can't shoot, Google the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. It's an eye opener, to say the least. Later.

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