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Old 10-24-2004, 04:25 AM
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Lightbulb baush and lom balvar 8 scope help??


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i just picked up a NIB balvar 8 out of an estate the scope has no means of adjustment on it and the mount is missing a few questions 1. ho wod you sight it in , what was the quality of these scopes and do they hold any value now and where could i locate a mount for one thnaks jim
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:09 AM
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You have a Balvar 8A, I believe- the 8B was the first B&L with internal adjustments.
On the 8A, and many scopes of that era, the adjustments were part of the mount, not the scope. So, you need to find a mount with adjustments.
I don't know who might have them, although you might find one at a gun show.
For the era, the Balvar's were as good as any scope on the market, and better than most of their competitors. However, manufacturing and optical technology has improved a whole bunch since the 1950's.
Your scope probably doesn't have much value as a user. Might look nice on a period rifle from the '40's or '50's, though.
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:30 AM
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JAck knows his scopes.

All the adjustment was in the mount. Need a the crrect mount for the rifle it's to be mounted to, but the mounts did offer a wide range of adjusments (even if sometimes it felt like you were playing ping-pong). Are mounts out there to find, will have to search the parts dealers and the specialist sites.

Would make a good set up for an nice 1950's rifle. PErsonally, I like keeping the time frames straight...old rifles with period scops just look "right".

Most people buy a classic rifle and then go hunting a good scope...I've been guilty of the reverse, buying a good old scope and then eventaully finding a rifle to go under it. Right now, a 6X Unertl sits on the shelf waiting...sooner or later, it will find a rifle to wear.

For their day, they were good scopes, and it's worth the effort in finding a mount.
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Is possible to use a modern windage and elevation mount...won't offer the latitude of adjustment of the original, but if you are lucky and the mount is nearly centered when attached, it can work.

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Old 10-24-2004, 04:29 PM
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Welcome to the Forum.

I have several Bausch & Lomb Balvar 8B scopes that are as good today as any on the market. The Balvar 8A mounts for specific rifles may be available from Brownells. Some larger gun shops or gunsmiths may have a few of these mounts around. Hope this helps. All the best...
Gil
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:06 PM
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You didn't say what rifle you would put in on but try these websites
www.hegibbs.com , www.vintagesporting.com
or try on e-bay as the somtimes have a set of bases for sale Good luck

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Old 02-03-2005, 08:24 PM
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Jim, I maybe able to help with bases and rings. I have a base for 700 or 721 Remington long action which is new in box and a used plunger style ring set-up. I may have 722-700 Remington short action which requires the leef spring style rings. I would be interested in purchasing your scope.
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:38 AM
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Same here. I bought an FN Mouser .220 Swift with a BALVAIR 8A mounted many years ago. I sent the scope to the factory for cleaning and they sent me a replacement without charge. I still have that scope. My gunsmith mounted a mount on my Winchester 100. I did have a mount problem many years later but I found a spare mount for my Winchester model 100 on the Internet at a reasonable price. I used both to build a serviceable mount for my model 100 Winchester.308. I love the BALVAR 8 because it had more eye relief than any other scope I have owned and I didn't have to feel for a ring to adjust the magnification...just grab the end of the eye piece and turn. Best scope I ever used. I wish they would make a similar scope again with all the BALVAR 8 features except the scope adjustments need to be in the scope to improve usability. I would search the Internet and gunsmiths. I found my spare mount at a gunsmith shop. Oh yes, you have to buy a mount for the particular rifle. But, the scope can be moved from one rifle to another easily by pulling back to compress the rear spring loaded locking arm and lifting the front of the scope. Then reverse the procedure to install on another rifle and surprisingly the scope stays in zero, or at least mine does. Good luck and good hunting!

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Old 11-15-2011, 11:08 AM
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Bringing up this old thread. I too have a Balvar 8 B.

Somewhere along the line an adjustment turret cover ended up missing. I have been trying for years to find a replacement for it with no luck. Anyone have a suggestion? Keeps getting bumped and out of adjustment. Have tries tape over it but that is not a great solution.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:24 PM
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Yep, I have one.
there are two mounts that will work:
the original plunger style B&L mount and a Krusky (P?) Erie Pa.

The orject of this design was to have awaterproof scope that would not fog. the turets tha thave Windage and elevation are the source of moisture; B&L didn't have these, instead the adjustment were in the mounts.

In addition in the late 1950s and early 60s scopes were expensive so the B&L system let you use the same scope on dozens of rifles with perfect zero.

mounts are always availabe at gun shows, not to bad on price. Might try the "Sight man" mr. reed.

Good scopes still. They came in the Balvar =variable; and in the Balfor 4x and the Baltwo 2=2x, and a Balsix=6x.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:34 PM
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Kuharsky is the name you're looking for.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:42 PM
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how about the turret covers? Any ideas?
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:51 PM
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Contact Bushnell, they own B&L and might be or have a source.
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:56 PM
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Contact Bushnell, they own B&L and might be or have a source.
have already done that and unfortunately they don't have a solution or source...
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:18 AM
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The Balvar doesn't have turrets nor covers!
The B&L that made that scope was in Rochester NY, they only make contact lenses and medical equipment today. Bushnell was just a 1960s licensee of the trademarks. But that license expired about 10 years ago and B&L Rochester did not renew it, so Bushnell now calles the old B&L products--Elite.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:25 AM
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The Balvar doesn't have turrets nor covers!
The B&L that made that scope was in Rochester NY, they only make contact lenses and medical equipment today. Bushnell was just a 1960s licensee of the trademarks. But that license expired about 10 years ago and B&L Rochester did not renew it, so Bushnell now calles the old B&L products--Elite.
Look at the Balvar 8B. I have one sitting right in front of me that does.
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:30 PM
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The 8B has the adjustments on the scope. The 8A has the adjustments on the mounts. Try here for parts and more info on B&L scopes: H.E. GIBBS. It is my understanding that they bought all of the B&L factory inventory.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:09 PM
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have already done that and unfortunately they don't have a solution or source...
Of course not.

They'd rather sell you a new scope.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:47 AM
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Balvor

I have two of the balvors,one on a 722 in 257 Roberts and the other on a 721 in270Win.I really like them and they used to be a bargain.As in everything worth anything they are now getting pretty spendy.
Bought my first one in a pawnshop in Missoula for $35.00.The other I bought on Ebay for $40.00.
Really like them,clear,cool tapered cross hairs. Nice stuff.
Randy
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:56 AM
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Old post but wanted to say I have one of these scopes with a short action 700 adjustable base if anyone has interest
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:52 PM
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joining this old thread just to be part of a unique group.... My Dad's favorite hunter was his Mauser 98 in 7x61 Sharpe & Hart Super with a B&L Balvar 8 and the adjustable spring type mount. He enjoyed flawless performance from it from beginning in the mid 1950's. It was as accurate as any other rifle he had and it always maintained zero. A few years ago I finally replaced it with new Leupold scope and Redfield mounts. I still have the B&L mounts, rings and scope on the shelf and will probably keep it for some future project.
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