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Old 09-24-2005, 03:56 PM
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scope for super blackhawk hunter???


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Just ordered a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter. This is a .44 mag. and, as I've never had a .44 mag., was wondering about a good scope? I know Burris and Leupold, but how are the Simmons Pro-Hunter for this application?
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:38 PM
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How about the Truglo reddots? Has anyone tried those?I was thinking of a 2x one! Thanks for any input!
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:56 PM
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I've been shooting a 44 mag for a long while now. As my eyes are getting older I looked at a bunch of scopes and tried out several.

I found that with the magnification hitting became easier except when I was shooting offhand and the scope became a hinderance for me at least. Even the two power scopes made any shake in the gun worse and I finally gave up on scopes.

I now shoot an aimpoint 500 on my Super Red Hawk and can hit well at 50 yards and with a rest to a hundred, (well meaning 10 inch groups at a hundred and six inch groups at 50 yards).

I am very pleased with the aimpoint and would not go back to a scope. Another advantage of the aimpoint is it is much easier for me to keep both eyes open when shooting.

All the scopes you mentioned will work. One thing I suggest is try to get to a store with both scopes and dot sights and look thru them.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:58 AM
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I have a Burris 1.5-4x, a Leupold 2x, a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-6x, and a Bushnell Trophy 2-6x on various handguns. The Burris and Leupold scopes have the sharpest optics, but the Bushnell Elite 3200 has the longest eye relief by far. The Burris has the shortest eye relief of these four.

The eye relief issue became the deciding factor for me on which scope I used on my Dan Wesson .44 mag. The scope mount on the Dan Wesson is on the barrel shroud, as it would be on your Super Blackhawk. The Bushnell Elite 3200 was the only one that didn't produce blackout for me because of my long reach with 35" arm length.

As faucettb suggested, it would be good if you could try several different models before you actually buy a scope. For a hunting scope, you probably won't want more than 2x magnification. If you do much shooting from a bench or other supported position, then a variable with higher magnification might of use.

I do have a red-dot on another handgun, but for hunting around here where temperatures can get to -20 degrees in the winter, I wasn't sure about relying on battery powered optics.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:04 PM
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Yeah Raoul! I just noticed that the Ruger has ring "grips" on the barrel shroud. The TruGlo may not work, as it has full weaver base on it! I may go with the Bushnell Trophy. How do you like that scope?
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:20 AM
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I'm generally happy with the scopes I have on the guns I have, but it took a little time and money to work things out. The Burris 1.5-4x started out on my Dan Wesson .44, but didn't work out because of a combination of its relatively short eye relief, my arm length and shooting style, and the DW's barrrel shroud mounting system. Next, I moved the Burris to my S&W 500, but I still wasn't comfortable with it because of eye relief and blackout problems. I finally moved the Burris to a Browning Buckmark 5.5 Target, and now that's my FAVORITE scope/handgun combo. I can hold the .22 back a little closer to me so the eye relief is no longer a problem; I really like the magnification range; and the scope's clarity is superb.

It took me a while to find a scope that worked for me on the DW .44. I finally went with the Bushnell Elite 3200 2-6x. Bushnell says it has a constant eye relief of, I think, 20 to 22 inches. I don't think I would call it a "constant" whatever number of inches, but I can hold the DW out in a comfortable position and still see through the scope at up to 5x without any blackout. I really don't use the higher magnifications when shooting off hand, but it's nice to actually be able to if I wanted to. The only time I have really used the higher magnifications has been when shooting from the bench or from some other kind of rest. As far as optical quality, I don't think the Bushnell is as sharp as the Burris, but you'd have to compare them side by side to really notice the difference. From my experience, however, I would say the Bushnell Elite 2-6x has the longest eye relief on any handgun scope I've tried BY FAR, while the Burris scopes generally seem to have the shortest eye relief.

For the S&W 500, I was concerned about the recoil's effects on the scope. I eventually decided on the Leupold 2x. I have mostly Leupold scopes on my rifles, and have always been well pleased with all of them. It seems to be working fine so far. I wish it had just a little longer eye relief, however. It dosen't completely black out like the Burris did, but, if you aren't lined up perfectly behind it, you will see little black cresents move in from the sides, and this slows down target acquisition somewhat.

As far as your question about the Bushnell Trophy 2-6x, I think it's a nice little variable for the money, but it's not in the same class as the Elite 3200 2-6x. It also dosen't have as long eye relief either. I think it's probably a fine choice for a .22 or some other light recoiling handgun, but I'm not sure about putting it on something like your SBH .44 because of the recoil.

While I haven't actually used the Burris 2x, I think I would advise you to take a look at one of these. It about the same price as the Bushnell Tropy 2-6x, and the Burris 2x should hold up under the .44's recoil. Also, for a hunting handgun you won't really need more than 2x magnification. Another option might be the Nikon 2x, but I haven't used one of these either. There are cheaper scopes out there, but in the long run, spending a few dollars more in the beginning might be less expensive than buying another scope later.

I would suggest trying to find a dealer that stocks a number of different scopes and trying all the ones you might be interested in. Compare them side by side. Look at the optical clarity. Check out the eye relief. Try different manifications. Decide what works best for you. Before you go, have someone use a tape measure and measure the distance from your eye to where the rear objective lens would be on your SBH. Try to duplicate this distance when you hold the scope in the store to approximate how it would actually work out for you. My favorite dealer has a dummy rifle stock with rubber mounting brackets, and you can actually hold this out far enough to duplicate how you would hold a handgun.

Another possibility might be something like the Aimpoint mentioned in another post. I thought about one of these for my DW, but I wasn't sure about battery life. Someone with actual experience with one of these would be better qualified than me to advise you here. I do have a Tasco ProPoint on a different gun, but I don't think I would recommend it for your SBH .44. I think the recoil would be a problem for it.

Good luck!

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I have the Burris and Leupold variable scopes on .44's and much prefer the Leupold ....... clearer and a lot less touchy about the typical problem with pistol scopes of not having a complete sight picture unless you have the firearm a specific length from you eye. But my preferred optic is the Bushnell Holo Sight...very easy to see, no problems with the line-of-sight not being perfect as you can see the dot from most any angle from the side. Plus it has a one mil. dot so the dot doesn't cover much target, even at 100 yards.
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I just noticed that the Ruger has ring "grips" on the barrel shroud. The TruGlo may not work, as it has full weaver base on it!
Weigand Comabt http://jackweigand.com sells a Weaver mount for the Rugers with the scope ring cutouts. http://jackweigand.com/Redhawk_Black...ey_Hunter.html
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Weigand Comabt http://jackweigand.com sells a Weaver mount for the Rugers with the scope ring cutouts. http://jackweigand.com/Redhawk_Black...ey_Hunter.html
Brownells has a base that attaches to the Ruger Super redhawk base and accepts Weaver rings.
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