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Old 12-19-2007, 07:03 PM
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Scope for a S&W 6.5" 686 in .44 Mag?


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Gentlemen,

For Christmas present #2, I'm considering scoping my 686 in .44 Mag.

The questions are kind of tweeners - between the Handguns, Reloading and Scopes forum. I ask that you bear with me...

I'm a bowhunter by nature, and no matter how hard I try, I've ended up in a bow-type stand/blind with a rifle. It's not working. So, I thought of scoping a handgun.

1) If I can hold a zero at 75-100 yards, will a 250 gr Lyman Devastator with a MV of 1275 fps take a deer/blk bear at that distance? I normally hunt those distances with a .300 wsm, so I wouldn't know.

Assuming a BC of .1, the bullet will strike the 100 yard target at approx 960fps with 520 f/lbs of energy. Is that enough?

If yes, and assuming that my gunsmith can machine anything in the world;

2) Should I put a fixed power? Red Dot? Variable?

In either case;

3) Which one would give me the best mount and eye relief?

I appreciate your thoughts,

EMC2
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:32 PM
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Have to say I used a 44 mag for years to hunt with. First a 6.5 inch 29 then both a 7.5 inch Super Redhawk and a 5.5 inch Redhawk. I've tried several scopes and finally ended up with an Aimpoint one minute dot red dot sight. This seemed to work the best for a handgun. A scope makes any wobble or shake worse where the red dot gives you a solid aiming point. The red dot has unlimited eye relief and as long as you can see the dot and your target your on where you have to have the scope in just the right position to see the cross hairs. The Aimpoint's take 30 mm rings and their are mounting systems for the N frame Smiths.

The Aimpoints are not inexpensive, but there really great red dot sights. The one that was on the 44 Ruger now sits on a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag 3.5 inch shotgun and has had several hundred rounds thru it with no problems. It went thru several thousand rounds on the Redhawk.

For years I used a 255 grain Kieth style gas checked hard cast bullet at 1250 fps out of the 5.5 inch gun and 1350 fps out of the 6.5 and 7.5 inch guns. They killed 19 black bear from 50 to 200 yards and I stopped counting the number of deer they killed. I never had great luck with jacketed bullets compared to cast for hunting big game. I haven't used any of the newer jacketed bullets there supposed to be much better than was offered in the 60's and 70's.

Here's the way my SRH was set up. This kind or a rig and even my Smith really needs a shoulder holster or front chest pouch holster to be carried comfortably. Some folks have a swivel installed on the barrel and the bottom of the grip and just use a sling to carry them.



This is on Millet windage adjustable rings. They are made for the Ruger's and I like the fact you can set the scope up on zero with them. You can't with Ruger rings.

This is the 5.5 inch Redhawk and it just kept open sights so it was much easier to carry, though to heavy for a belt gun and went in a shoulder holster.



I'm to crippled up now to climb the mountains to handgun hunt so now just carry one of Taurus's light 41 mag stainless trackers as a woods gun. I wouldn't hesitate to take a deer or bear with this gun out as far as I can shoot it well, say 50 to 75 yards with my 210 grain hardcast Kieth style bullets at 1250 fps even with my old eyes.



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Old 12-29-2007, 07:53 PM
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Thank you faucettb,

I must admit my obvious error, in that my revolver is the 629 DX and not the 686 in .44 mag. My apologies for the oversight, I had the 686 on my mind.

Anyway, I don't recall if it was you who had shared the story, but if so, was it those .44 mag Keith style cast loads at 1350fps that shook loose your S&W?

I'm currently clocking 1250 out of my 6.5" bbl, and I would like to be certain that I don't shoot loose my own 629.

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Old 03-05-2011, 09:35 PM
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Wasn't there an endurance package that Smith added to the Model 29 line to make them more tolerable of heavy loads? It makes me thankful that I have a Super Blackhawk for heavy loads. However, the Model 29 is a more graceful looking gun. It is not as strong as a Ruger Redhawk either but it is still in a class all its own regarding looks. Even with its limitations compared to other 44s, the Model 29 is a classic. Just my not so humble opinion.

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