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Old 11-21-2012, 09:43 AM
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I just got a scope and when I went to sight it in, I saw that the adjustments are exactly opposite to what it says on the dial. I did some checking on goggle and did not fine out much other than this is not unique to me.

The best answer I saw that sounded like it was an informed writer was that European scopes list the direction the cross hairs move which is opposite the direction you are away from the aim point.

Makes it easy I guess if you sight in my looking down the scope and adjust from center to the bullet hole as you move the way the cross hairs need to go. Confusing if you adjust based upon where the bullet hit away from the center.

At first I thought I was losing it but then Saturday it dialed in perfectly turning it the direction the cross hairs needed to go.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:18 AM
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Interesting. What type of scope is it?
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:34 AM
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Same thing happened to me on a nikon and it seems to be inconsistent from scope to scope
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:22 PM
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Lots of Japan brand scopes are reversed like that. See guys going crazy at the rifle range.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:59 PM
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I have found that if you are sitghting in at a very close distance the adjustments are sometimes reversed, but when you do it further away the adjustments are correct. HD1
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:09 PM
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Bushnell Elite 4200. I have bought maybe 10 scopes in my life and I only had this happened once when I bought a scope from some low life that was married to my cousin. I think I paid 20 dollars and that one was backward. I still have the scope and use it on a 22 so I guess it was an OK scope but I kept arguing with my son who is new to shooting who now thinks that you can only sight a gun by moving the nob while looking through the scope. That method works great but find it hard to do by myself. Thank god he was there or who knows how long it would have taken before I realized they were reversed.

Thanks everyone I just could not imagine how this could happen. Guess it does.
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I'm just going to throw this out and hope I don't offend anyone. Most scopes have Up/Down in the top adjustment, Left/Right in the right adjustment, when the scope is mounted correctly, looking from the butt of the gun. I have seen scopes mounted 90 degrees off from correct, with he U/D adjustment on the left, and the R/L adjustment on the top. Up becomes left, down becomes right, right is up, left is down. A lot of ammo is burned and the shooter is totally confused without noticing the U/D, R/L on the adjustments!

No, I haven' done it, but have seen it done!
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I think that the older Redfield's are opposite from most scopes, not sure about current models.
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I have a mid-70's Redfield Widefield 2-7x, and the adjustments are correct. It would be difficult to mount the widefield incorrectly, but with round ocular and objective lens (most scopes), easier done. I haven't ever had a scope that had such reverse adjustments. I don't know if incorrect assembly can produce that result?
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I've done it Shawn. I have a Savage with extended bases that the ejected shell was hanging up a bit on the right windage knob/housing. It was unhandy loading it from the top as well for the same reason. I simply rotated the Leupold 90 degree counter clockwise. As you stated, right is up on what is now the elevation knob. On the windage knob which now resided on the left side, down moves the POI to the right. It's confusing as ****. I have it saved in the notes of my iPhone else I'd be all jacked up at the range:-)
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All the Redfields I've owned since the early 60's have always had the correct adjustment indicators.

Can remember someone at the local gunrange having a problem with a scope that was backward in the adjustments and IRCC, it was a Chinese brand of some sort. Only one I've encountered in all the years.
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I have one on my 22 like that. The brand name is Universal. Once you figure it out it works great. Been on that 22 for over 40 years. Maybe that is what you get when you buy a scope from a guy in a parking lot selling scopes out of the trunk of his car like i did.
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I have one on my 22 like that. The brand name is Universal. Once you figure it out it works great. Been on that 22 for over 40 years. Maybe that is what you get when you buy a scope from a guy in a parking lot selling scopes out of the trunk of his car like i did.

Now that's funny....

Also agree with Shawn and Kdub. I have a mid seventies Redfield 3-9 which has been on a bunch of different rifles. The adjustments are made in the normal manner.
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I've done it Shawn.
But you did it on purpose!
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:45 AM
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right is up on what is now the elevation knob
Bird Dog II - R = Raise and L = Lower. That dial doesn't sound so confusing.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:36 AM
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Some arrows indicate the direction the bullet moves, and some indicate the direction the crosshairs move...which are opposite of each other.
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What scopes show the direction the crosshairs move? Not doubting you just never seen one.
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Bird Dog II - R = Raise and L = Lower. That dial doesn't sound so confusing.
True Russel, thanks.

Come to think of it, when I deployed to Afghanistan, prior during the train up, some of the Red Dots they issued for our M-4s had R and L on both the windage and the elevation adjustments (rather than U or D on the elevation one). It was really giving some of the less experienced shooters fits while zeroing. Most of these guys had always zero'd with the standard peep sight and hadn't used scopes much. I had to explain to a few of them that the top turret was for elevation despite it saying R and L. Then we had to figure out which way was which.
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