I have a question Im just getting back into hunting after being on the sideline for 30yrs I have just purchased 3 new hunting rifles 2 in 308 Tekka t-3 lite and Savace 10-fcp-sr and 1 in 300 win mag Savage 111 Long Range Hunter My 308's the scopes for the 308' I would like to use up to 200-400 yrds and the 300 win mag 300-500 yrds I know these rounds can do the distance just tring to find a way to save a few bucks so I can get better glass why Im looking at Refurbished vs New and wanted to know if anyone has bought refurbished and was it a good choice to do so. Im looking on Natchez and did not know if anyother sights sell refurbish Thank you for taking the time to look at my question and any comments would be of great help as well as what manufacture you like (I know that on is a loaded question)

Oh the 308's are for Pig, Deer and that very dangerous target paper
the 300 win mag Mule Deer, Elk and Ram

Thank you again for your comments

Referb's have been restored to factory original condition with the exception of minor cosmetic blimishes (if any). You would think all defects have been found and corrected, unlike a new one that may or may not have such defects.

I have had a few referb's in the past of high brand scopes and have had absolutely no problems with them.

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I've bought a refurb or two from Natchez over the years. Apart from a cosmetic mark here or there, they've been equal to the 'new' versions of the same scopes IME. I won't say that no one else sells refurbs, but Natchez is where I see them all.

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Kdub and MZ5 thank you for the information would you have any suggestions on magnafication and brand for the rifles I have

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thesamplelist.com is SWFA's clearing house for refurbished, returned and sample scopes. I have had good luck in the 20 or so I have bought from them through the years, I am partial to the Nikons something in 3X9X40 would probably fill your needs.

Refurbished scopes dont come with a lifetime warrantee. They come with a 90 warrantee, a 90 day warrantee on a scope that already had to be returned is not a good deal in my opinion. Go with a new scope with a full warantee, with Nikon you will probably need it.

Here check this site, it was discussed here befor.
RugerForum.com • View topic - Refurbished Nikon scopes

the difference between factory "refurbished" and new discount, is so small I'd never buy refurbished.
Unfortunately often times the great prices for scopes are "refinished" but not shown in the large print.

I buy only from manufacturer dealers and Never refurbished.
Just me but blowing away 50-100 bucks of ammo on an scope than moves or fogs, isn't my ideal.

Thank you for the information about the warranties I did not know this and I would agree the savings on a refurbish dose not out way the lifetime warranty with this information I have 3 rifles to scope so my budget is limited to a point. I'm looking at the Nikon Pro Staff line in the BDC Wal-Mart has a 4-12x40 Pro Staff for $199.97 and a 3-9x50 Pro Staff for $209.97 which I think will work fine for my 308's they also have a Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 for $134.97 my question is on the Bushnell banner has anyone had good luck with the Banner line and would this magnification be fine for my Savage 111 Long Hunter Rifle in 300 win mag for mule dear, elk and ram and or would the Nikon Buckmaster 6-18-40 at $389.97 be better also on Bushnell has anyone used the Trophy Elite line and did you like it.
Thank you again for your comments

IMO Bushnell Banners and Trophy scopes are fine, they are in the class with mid-priced Nikons. but they are not Leupold VX2 or VX-3.

Bushnell Elites are very good scopes (I have about 5 of them). One is on a 300 RUM for the last 6 years and is great. I take a 50 mm Elite to Africa for night hunting leopards. it is moounted on a 338 and has bounced around enough in a hunting vehicle to have bluing wear marks.

The nail hit squarely on the head!

The last two scopes I bought were new, but discontinued models. One of them is a Nitrex TR1. Very nice scope. Cost less than 1/3 of the original price. Natchezss still has some of those.

I really like the glass in all 4 of my Nikon scopes and havent had to return one for repair yet.
If I didnt have the lifetime warranty I would definately have a problem with one or more that is just how my luck runs.
The Prostaff really has some good glass and has held up to some really stout loads in my 300 Win Mag so I will recomend that for yours. I understand the monetary constraints very well without them all of my scopes would be Monarchs.

If you are looking at Natchez,like mentioned above the Nitrix TR1 ($99.00-129.00)is a really nice scope. It would be great for your .308. The 300 Win. I would not but anything less than a Weaver Grand Slam,Leupold VX2,or a Bushnell Elite,you will be taking long shots and the recoil may affect lesser scopes. I would pass on the Banner. Some SAY the Nitrix is the same as a Grand Slam but there is no proof of this. I have had a Nitrix 3-9 on a Win Model 70 .223 for quite awhile now and it is real nice.

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Far as I know, the Nitrex and the Weaver Grand Slam are the same scope with different names on them.

ok now Im confused on the brand I should look at but I do have a question I hope all should be some what on the same page take the name brand out what power should I be looking at for my savage 111 long hunter in 300 win mag 4-12x40 or much greater. I would take shoots up to 500 yrds for mule dear, elk and ram

Thank you again for your comments

When picking your scope watch the eye relief distance. Usually with lower power rifles it isn't much of an issue. The only "scope eye" i've gotten in my life was with a Bushnell on a 300WM.

Concerns over Nikon's falling apart isn't normal that I know of. Several buddys and I hunt prairie dogs from ATVs with Nikons on some of our rifles. None of us have issues with Nikons or any scope for that matter but we don't drag 'em behind the 4 wheelers.

4-12 or 4-14 power range will work well on your 500 yard shoots and still not be a handicap on the closer shots you may encounter. Higher powered scopes with huge objectives are more of a liability than an asset on a hunting rifle IMO.

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If you are on a budget, I would really look at a Redfield Revolution 4-12x, it has the power you need , and the optics are very good at a reasonible price. I have one it is a great scope for the money. It is built by Leupold and has the same great warratee and customer service Leupold has. The Redfield Revenge is little cheaper, I dont know about these scopes other than they are not made in U.S.A. like the Revolution is, I would pay a little extra and buy the American made Revolotion. JMO.

Redfield Revolution 4-12x40mm Riflescope

If you buy a Bushnell, go with the Elite series or the Ultra HD, stay away from the Banners.
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun...ltra-hd-3-9x50

Fritz1 thank you for the information I have done some research and like what I have found on Redfield they have a new line "Revenge" has anyone purchased and used yet would love to hear what anyone thinks on this line from Redfield

I have purchased four or five Leupold refurbs from Midway and every single one of them looked 100% new in box to me. I don't know what was refurb about them but they looked and worked, and have continued to work perfectly.

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Did they have lifetime warranties?