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Old 03-03-2004, 01:15 PM
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good day all. i have a 50-140 sharps and would like to try some different hand loads. any pet loads out there you would like to share with me? also, i'm not sure if this is a stupid question but, can i load a black powder cartridge for this gun? thanks for any replies.
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Black Powder (probably in the coarser grades like Fg or CTG.) is proably the best choice. Ther is a whole lot of volume in a 50cal. 3 1/4" cse, and smokeless isn't the best choice for operating at pressures most black powder guns are happy with. In general, the larger teh cae, the harder it is to get a sadisfactory smokeless load.

Black powder of Pyrodex would be a beter choice.

Try a book search for books by "Matthews"...he's published a couple dealing with black powder cartridge loading, and they are worth reading.
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:16 PM
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Boddington did an article several years ago about the 50-140. I can't remember if he published the loads he used or not. I can look it up when I get home and post more tomorrow. I think it was in an annual addition of Guns&Ammo, or Big Bore Rifles.
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Cartridges of the World, 9th Edition:

50-140 (3 1/4") Sharps
50-140 Winchester Express

422 gr cast lead - 39.0 gr IMR4198 - 1386 fps
440 gr " " - 55.0 gr AA 5744 - 1978 fps
550 gr " " - 50.0 gr AA 5744 - 1736 fps
465 gr " " - 33.0 gr IMR4198 - 1450 fps
700 gr " " - 48.0 gr AA 5744 - 1529 fps
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Old 03-03-2004, 03:03 PM
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Accurate Arms has a website with load data for all the old timers, using it's 5744 powder. It was specifically designed for the old black powder cartridges. The new Lyman manual (48th edition) also has a lot of loads for the old timers. I don't have either one handy at the moment but can post back if need be...
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Old 03-03-2004, 04:03 PM
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Accurate Arms has a website with load data for all the old timers, using it's 5744 powder. It was specifically designed for the old black powder cartridges. The new Lyman manual (48th edition) also has a lot of loads for the old timers. I don't have either one handy at the moment but can post back if need be...
Lyman stops at the 50/70...no loads for the bigger cased rounds. C.O.the W.'s loads look to be a bit warmer than BP pressure, but the Repro-Sharps rifles have been taken up to 24-28K without any ill effects in smaller rounds.

5477 would be the one I'd try (cautiously) if I were to work with the long case...works fine in a 50/70.

Would still recommend "Cast Bullets for the Black Powder Cartridge Rifle" (Matthews) as being worth a read.
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Old 03-04-2004, 05:17 AM
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thanks for your replies. does anybody have any personal experience with loading this cartridge? it looks like i'll stick with smokeless powder. also, i haven't shot this gun yet, what kind of recoil can i expect. how would it compare to my 7mm ultra mag, in terms of recoil? thanks again.
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Old 03-22-2005, 08:00 PM
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This may be a silly question, but does anyone make a factory round in 50-140?

I have -0- experience at handloading, but my wife has wanted a Sharps 50-140 for a long time, and I hope to get her one for her birthday... it would be sad to have the rifle and no ammo...
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thanks for your replies. does anybody have any personal experience with loading this cartridge? it looks like i'll stick with smokeless powder. also, i haven't shot this gun yet, what kind of recoil can i expect. how would it compare to my 7mm ultra mag, in terms of recoil? thanks again.
The 50-140 using a Max load and 550 grain bullet will have you fretting over trying to keep your hat on while firing at the bench. I would relate it's recoil to somewhat of a person firing a 30-06 with 220 grain bullets from the bench. It ceases to be a pleasant outting after a dozen shots or so. I would forget about those 700 grain bullets......Ouch!
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