First, my choice was the H&R Ult. Varmint for the price, but some people talk to me about the Savage 12FV and tell me that for a few bucks more, it will be a lot better. And what you think about the Savage Mod. 40 versus 12FV.
In Canada;- H&R Ulta Varmint: 360$
- Savage 12FV: 580$
- Savage Mod. 40: 450$
and for exemple; Rem. 700 VLS: 850$(too much for me)

If you can get the Savage 12FV if it has the accu-trigger. I have a Savage 12BVSS and am very happy with it. I have shot prairie dogs along side a HR .223 ultra and it will do but not as good as the 12FV. The HR's trigger isn't quite as good and the barrel is shorter. I can't say anything about the Savage 40. I am partial to the Savage, but it think that it would be better than the Remington even if you could spring for the extra money.

Thanks, and yes it's with the accu-trigger. If i go with all i've read in forums about Savage, for the $$ difference, i think i will not be disapointed.
If someone know about the Savage 40 Varm., i will apreciate to know more about that rifle because the only thing i know it's they don't have the accu-trigger on it.
Hope you understand (not very good in English)
Thanks!!

The H&R's sound a bit more expensive in your neck of the woods! I got mine (.223 Ultra) here for $230, plus an $80 scope. Yes, the trigger is a bit stiff. But I've still managed 1 moa groups or better on a regular basis. Didn't think I'd like a single-shot, but for small game hunting, it really helps hone my skills. My only complaint about the Ultra is the slowish 1:12 twist; it limits accuate shooting to 55gr or less. I think the Savage has a faster twist.

Good luck

The price i've put was in Canadian dollar so i think that it's the same thing with the exchange and the Savage 12FV twist was 1:9 so if i shoot 55gr. with that twist, can i also expect to have good accuracy because here, the most popular ammo available(Win. and Rem.), it's around 55gr.
For the trigger, i've read in a Gun and Ammo issue that the trigger on H&R Ultra is 4 pound. Not that bad for me.I have a Marlin heavy brl. 22 mag. with 4 pound trigger and still be able to shoot 1 to 1.5 inch @ 100.
Little question; What mean Sub MOA in exact terms???I know what it mean(it's for the grooping at 100 yrd) but ??MOA??
Thanks

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Squills, Hopefully this will answer your MOA question. moa means minute of angle. Without getting technical, 1" at 100 yards, 2" at 200 yards, 3" AT 300, And so on. Sub moa means smaller than 1" at 100 yards. alot of people say 1/4 moa or 1/2 moa meaning 1/4" groups or 1/2" at 100 yards etc.
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I Have Both. The 12 Flvss 22-250 (left Hand) Is A Lot More On The Heavy Side And The Trigger Is Great. Shoots Like A Dream. The Nef 223 Shoots Like A Dream Also But The Trigger Needs Stoned To Fix It. Longer Distance With The 12 But If Coyote Hunting In The Mt's The Single Is Better To Carry But The 12 Is Great Off A Bipod For The G-hogs.

Forgot....the 12 Flvss Is Using 55 Gr Ball Tipe With 38.2gr H-380, Wlr Primers And Is .004 Off Lands. It Will Shot 1 Hole A 100 And Shots 4'' Clay Pigons At 500 Yds At Each Shot. The 223 Will Drive A Tack At 100 With Almost Every Shot But I Did Do The Trigger And Hand Laped The Barrel.........

What mean "hand laped th barrel"

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I don't know the first thing about actually doing it, but it basically means that he polished out all of the rough spots and imperfections on the inside of the barrel. It's supposed to greatly reduce fouling and make your rifle more accurate. Marshall sells kits for "firelapping" the barrel. which work by actually firing bullets that will polish your barrel instead of using all of that "elbow grease" with handlapping.

amndouglas

fire lapping will eat up the throat of the gun. i have done it but hand lapping is the way to go. you can have a barrel hand lapped for $30.00 and the crown touched up for $30.00.