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Old 02-12-2005, 04:07 AM
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Was looking at a Whitworth Mauser type rifle yesterday at a Gunshop, It is a 375 H&H, about 80-85% finish. Any comments on its value? I have never seen one before. Really nice stock with good figure and hand checkered.
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If it's similar to what I've got, it is imported by Interarms, commercial mauser, made on a Yugo action. More or less the same thing as the Mark X.

Mine is a .458 and had 'whitworth' on the recoil pad.

If they'll let you pull the action out of the stock, should say something like Zavastia (?) on the left side of the receiver, below the stock line. That's the factory in the former Yugoslavia that made the action.

The .375 would be a longer action, I'd think. Certainly it would have a longer mag box than what I have.

If I find one at a decent price, I'd snap it up.
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:29 AM
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Couldn't resist and bought it this AM for $ 495. Has a Leupold var-xII 3-9 scope on it in QD mounts. I would have to say that the condition is better than 85%, more like 90 +. It is much more classy than the Mod 70 375 I have.
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:47 AM
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Couldn't resist and bought it this AM for $ 495. Has a Leupold var-xII 3-9 scope on it in QD mounts. I would have to say that the condition is better than 85%, more like 90 +. It is much more classy than the Mod 70 375 I have.
Did good.

May notice that the Wintworth is a bit lighter...and it will tend to accentuate recoil a bit becasue of that weight...but it's shootable. NOt a great gun to get beat with at the bench, but if you use a high rest...high enough that your body can flex and roll with it...can survive a bench session with just a slight headache.

INterarms imported two version. One was just marked "Whitworth" or "MArk X Whitworth". This one had a standard stock (with a contrasting wood fore end tip)..even the "standard" stocks were good grades of walnut. This one was made (or assembled) in two places for Interarms...but belive they all used Yugoslavian Mauser made actions.

There was also a "Whitworth Express". This one is a sleeker gun, with a sedate classic stock, no fore end tip, and a floding 3 blade extress sight. Metal is all about the same, with the exception of the iron sights.

Was in a gun shop years ago, and the clerk handed me a Whitworth Express he had just taken in on a gun deal. Bounced it my hand, figured it to be about 7 1/2 pounds (I was close...more like 7 1/8 pounds scopeless)...375H&H... the price was right...so it came home. Wanted to test those express sights and be sure they wre "on" before scoping.

Benching a 7 pound .375H&H doesn't promote fine shooting. Setting up a short step latter and shooting froma bag on top of that let me shoot the gun to my heart's content without any problem that day...did have a gun headache that evening.

MAde some gooves in the barrel channel and drilled but butt stock for some added weight (but work from both ends to keep it balanced), added a 2-7X Leupold, and got the weight up to a more managable 8 1/3 pounds.

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Then it is the "Whitworth Express" and you did even better...like the simple clean lines of the stock.

Think weight veried a good bit depending on the wood used for stocking...don't belive they had a consistant supply of stocks.

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Old 02-13-2005, 02:15 PM
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Then it is the "Whitworth Express" and you did even better...like the simple clean lines of the stock.

Think weight veried a good bit depending on the wood used for stocking...don't belive they had a consistant supply of stocks.
I owned a Whitworth Express when I lived in Alaska chambered in 458Win Mag great gun and very accurate would cloverleaf @100 yards with hornady 500grain wish I still owned it. Would love one in 375H&H
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Hello,
This is my first post. Once I read about your Whitworth I had to chime in and tell you, "Way to go!"
I have a Whitworth in a 375H&H. My Dad had it before me. He passed it on to me on my 16th birthday (9 years ago) Between him and I, many animals fallen to its thunder. Caribou, Bear, Moose, Wolves, and even a Coyote one year on the last day of moose season. I have dropped 6 moose with it over the years, 4 bulls over 50". One 57" bull close enough that I shot "up" out of the grass, head to head, planting the bullet more or less "under it's chin" setting it backwards on its rear then tumbling forward; on out to a little bull @ 400 yards (I will not shot ANY farther than that).
This rifle has treated me very well. This gun will never be sold and in the same aspect I keep buying other guns to hunt with because I care for the Whitworth enough that I dont want to keep abusing it in the Alaskan weather. No matter what other guns I get and have prepped for the up coming season , when time rolls around, it's the .375 H&H Whitwoth that goes out the cabin door and into the brush with me.
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If it's similar to what I've got, it is imported by Interarms, commercial mauser, made on a Yugo action. More or less the same thing as the Mark X.

Mine is a .458 and had 'whitworth' on the recoil pad.

If they'll let you pull the action out of the stock, should say something like Zavastia (?) on the left side of the receiver, below the stock line. That's the factory in the former Yugoslavia that made the action.

The .375 would be a longer action, I'd think. Certainly it would have a longer mag box than what I have.

If I find one at a decent price, I'd snap it up.

hi mike, hi bigfoot

the yugoslav maker was the old serbian royal arsenal, "zastava", founded back in the 1800's.

here is their website, some interesting history plus info on current firearms they manufacture:

http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/zastava.htm

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Old 03-27-2009, 07:05 PM
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Whitworth Express

I have owned a Whitworth Express for nearly 20 years, and have found it to be an excellent rifle, and a fantastic bargain. It will shoot MOA with bullets 0f 250 - 300 grains; it doesn't like the lighter bullets, but, even with 235 grains, the spread is 1 1/2 ins. at 100 yds. The stock is a classic, dark, well figured walnut, and the rifle is topped with a Leupold 1.5 - 5X VXIII, in a detachable mount. I've had a Winchester Mod. 70, which couldn't hold a candle to my Whitworth (the stock was like a railroad tie, by comparison), and it wasn't nearly as accurate, besides busting my fingers on the trigger guard during recoil because of the tightly curved pistol grip. Love my Whitworth!

Error - the scope on it is a Leupold VariX III, 3.5 - 10 AO. The 1.5 - 5 was on a Ruger Mod. 1 in 458 Win Mag which I sold. I've loaded to near max. pressures with 285 and 300 grain bullets, with no apparent problems.

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Old 03-28-2009, 03:05 AM
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That's a very good deal on your Whitworth. They are the same lineage as the current Remington 798, but the Whitworth's I've seen have much better fit and finish than the 798s or the run of the mill Interarms or Charles Daly Mark Xs. All of them are made on Mauser equipment in Yugoslavia.
I have an Interarms 375 H&H that has been a fine rifle and it is very accurate with a variety of bullets. There is an issue over the H&H chamber being cut too far forward which some say has weakened the lower bolt lug. If you really want to get into it some of the gunsmiths that post over at Accuratereloading have gone back and forth over it ad nauseum. To be safe, I either use factory loads or handload to less than MAX pressures and have a gunsmith check it over once in a while. So far, no problems.
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I have the Remington 798 version in 458 Win. mag. The barrelled action is made by Zastava Arms and the stock is installed by Remington. The overall finish is very good and accuracy is excellent. It features true controlled feed.

It's a great rifle made even better with the barrel length reduced to 23" (from 26") and with the trigger adjusted down to a crisp 3# pull.


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Old 03-28-2009, 07:08 AM
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458,
wondering, from the laminated stock that would be the 798 Safari model? if so, you have removed the iron sights?
were the OEM iron sights any good or were they the cheap plastic models installed on the XCR's and other models?
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:53 AM
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Good buy, Bigfoot! I have a Whitworth Express in .375 H&H and it deserves all the praise it is getting. Mine shoots all weights of bullets well and most within 2" of each other.
The one I have isn't all that lightweight, which I like, but is about 9.3 pounds with a "old" 1 3/4X5 power "Widefield" Redfield with a "post" reticule.
In the .375, the receiver was "milled" so this longer cartridge will feed and eject reliably (which it does). The 3 leaf "express" sights, straight classic stock with a "shadow" cheek piece give it that distinctive "safari" look. Most of the "Express" that I have seen have a bit better wood than the, more common, Mark X's and better bluing.
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VERY good buy, especially with the V-X II hangin' on it, I'd say you stole it ! .....I had an Interarms in 7-Mag, and it was a very nice rifle ..

now you've got a perfect reason to go Moose hunting ! .... (or anything else for that matter !)
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:23 AM
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458,
wondering, from the laminated stock that would be the 798 Safari model? if so, you have removed the iron sights?
were the OEM iron sights any good or were they the cheap plastic models installed on the XCR's and other models?

Not the Safari model. Iron sights were removed, the front hooded sight was removed with the barrel length reduction.

Not bad iron sights I suppose, but iron sights on a hunting rifle, for me at least, are about as useful as udders on a goose.
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:37 PM
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I think you'll like your new rifle. I bought my Whitworth .375 H&H in '86, with the idea that I'd eventually replace it with a Model 70. I've come to really like it and have no intention of replacing it now. The action is smooth enough, the trigger pull is light and crisp, the rifle handles well and is reasonably accurrate. I don't recall what I paid for it and I don't know what it's worth, but I like the one I've got.
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Not bad iron sights I suppose, but iron sights on a hunting rifle, for me at least, are about as useful as udders on a goose.
I think irons are useful on any gun that could see service as a dangerous game rifle. I've never hunted for dangerous game, but I'm told by the original owner of my .375 that it was a DGR in both Africa and Alaska before I got it. Irons are also useful on the few occasions I've carried it without a scope for bear protection. Ordinarily it wears a 1.5-5x20 Leupold in old style Warne Premier lever QD mounts and rings. That particular scope base has an adjustable peep sight on the rear base and the barrel has factory iron on the front so the rifle can quickly be converted to iron sights. If I ever decide to hunt dangerous game seriously I'd probably go with a sturdier setup like a 2 leaf express sight
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