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Old 12-09-2005, 04:34 PM
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.375 H&H Recoil ?


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How do these big guns really kick? I am not recoil sensitive. Shot a featherweight .30-06 forever and .300s don't bother me. My .50 Encore kicks plenty with 130+ grains of powder and a 300 grain Sabot or 370 grain maxis. How much more "felt recoil" does the big H&H deliver? I have been told it pushes more than kicks and is easier on you than a .338. Is this true? Overall impressions?
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My brother has a Ruger "Express" in 375 H&H, at 10.5 lbs (website lists 9.5 lbs for this at the moment), so with a gun of that weight, it is downright pleasant to shoot. In my opinion, it is more of a push in that rifle than a sharp jolt.

I do have a 338 Win Mag also, in a Browning A-bolt stainless stalker, and with scope and all wet, it's 7.5 lbs (Browning website currently lists it out at 7.3 lbs, but mine is 14 or 15 years old now, and is definitely a light gun), and it is unpleasant to shoot with 250-grainers, but not unbearable in the field. It is more of a sharp jolt in this config compared to the 10.5 lb 375. 3 lbs, even 1.5, makes a lot of difference in felt recoil, and the type of recoil (speed of recoil).

Fit of the gun, and quality of recoil pad, will make a big difference.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:28 PM
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I had to sight in a Ruger #1 in 375 H&H for a friend of mine once. He was scared of it so I took the oportunity to shoot 10-12 rounds thru it before he made me quit. He wanted me to save some shells so he could take it elk hunting In my humble opinion the 375 H&H didn't kick me much harder than my 35 Whelen does. Like shawn says it's a big push not a sharp jolt like a 7 mag . Nowhere near as much as the 300 RUM.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:39 PM
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I have a Winchester Classic in 375 H&H and a Ruger No.1 in 458 Win. Mag. You wouldn't want to shoot ether one a lot from the bench but shooting off hand isn't bad at all. Like a lot of people have said, they have more of a push than a sharp jolt to the sholder. Both guns are fairly heavy and that takes away a lot of felt recoil when shooting them. I have shoot some smaller calibers that had more recoil but they were very light guns.

I do some BPCR shooting using 550-600 gr bullets in 45-70 at distances up to 1000 yds. In a average match I will shoot 150-175 rounds and that doesn't bother me a bit. The reason it doesn't bother me is because the Browning-Winchester 1885 High Wall rifle I'm shooting weighs over 12 lbs.

If you want a 375 H&H make sure it has a little weight to it and the recoil want bother you a bit.

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If you can handle a 300 Mag, you can handle a 375 H&H.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:17 PM
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Their recoil generally is not that bad because they are usually fairly heavy guns. My 10 pound 375 H&H is more pleasant to shoot than my 8.5 pound 338 Win, and way more pleasant than my Guide Gun with full snort loads. See if you can get your hands on one to try out for yourself before you buy.
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They don't kick as badly as you'd think - nothing to be afraid of, certainly.

As for the numerous comparisons between the .375 and .338, I believe the difference in perception is more a function of rifle weight than any attribute of the cartridges themselves. Heavy rifles create more of a push sensation, lighter ones jab. My friend has a Sako .375 that weighs about 8.5 lbs ready to go, and a Ruger 77 in .338 as well. If anything the Ruger is a touch heavier than the Sako, but they are very close. Anyway, shooting them both one day demonstrated that the lightweight .375 unmistakably recoils quicker and harder than the .338. Both were tolerable, though.

If you plug numbers into a recoil calculator, you can increase the rifle weight figure while keeping other data the same, and you will see the recoil velocity go down as rifle weight goes up. This is what causes the push vs. jab sensation.
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If you have fired a light pump shotgun with a Breneke or other heavy slug load than you know how a 375 will kick,
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:37 PM
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If you have fired a light pump shotgun with a Breneke or other heavy slug load than you know how a 375 will kick,
Done that many times. 10 gauges too. It is not pleasant, but nothing to be scared of. That is a comparison I can understand. Thx!
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:50 PM
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Recoil in 375 h&h is no problem with proper shooting tecnique.shoot it as you would shoot any other rifle ,don't tense up and roll with the recoil.My mother who is 55 and my friends girlfriend whoalmost 60 both shoot the 375 go to a local range and find someone with a 375 most people at the range are more than happy to let you have a crack at it.sighting in with a good rest is a must.other wise it will punish you
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Can shoot the .375 and survive...it's really not much differnt than a heavy load in a light 12ga. A little sharper with the .375 but the two feel pretty close to me.

I do dislke bench sessions with a .375 unless I've set up a "high bench". Get your body closer to upright, stay loose, be sure teh butt is firmly seated to you, and just roll with it.

You can't win a recoil fight...it's like riding horses in that respect...you just have to roll with it and enjoy the ride.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:54 AM
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The .375 is a great gun sure enough. I have a .375 Hawk/Scovill and a 35 whelen and both are not bad either. The .375 Hawk, ballistically almost equal to the H & H is actually more pleasant to shoot than my 35 whelen. Of course the 35 whelen was my first gunsmithing adventure and, is built on a mauser action with a #3 douglass featherweight barrel. Not such a good idea for table top practice in the warm weather with a t-shirt on unless you really are a recoil junky!!! Ha!!! The .375 was made on a mauser action with a douglass #6 barrel and it is quite tolerable, even with a 300 grain bullet.

My suggestion is to make sure you have at least 24 inches of barrel for weight and that it is not featherweight, if you start feeling the recoil too much, you will become jittery and not hit where you mean to put the bullet, a lot more important than anything else about the gun, unless you just buy one to look at. I like to shoot mine so, I made it a little heavy and gave it a mcmillan kevlar stock and free floating aluminum bedding. A mcmillan 1 inch recoil arresting soft recoil pad is part of the stock as well so, really is not bad.

We have become ingrained sometimes to look at how pretty a rifle is and not always look at how practical the rifle is. Don't get me wrong, beautiful is good, have some very pretty ones however, if you can't shoot it, it's beauty as a rifle may never be fully realized. Get one that you can shoot, if it takes a heavy one then make it heavy or recoil padded, typically the .375 pushes or shoves, you be the judge though and don't let anyone pressure you into one you can't enjoy shooting because it is the "best" or the most prestigious one out there. My $.02 worth.

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Old 12-27-2005, 06:53 PM
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375 H&h

Just picked mine up today. It's a Savage 116 SE. I shot 60 rounds this evening. The recoil is noticiable but not unmanageable.
I shot Federal 300 grain soft points(300 grains @2540 fps). 40 were off hand, 20 were from the bench. The stock recoil pad leaves much to be desired so it will be replaced with a Kickeeze or Sims pad. Other than that it's good to go.
If you can shoot full snort 12 ga. slugs or Goose loads you will have no problem with .375 H&H.
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:50 PM
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My 300 weatherby kicks sharper than my 375.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:33 PM
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I've been feeding my .375Cal-Fetish for more than a few years now. I grew up shooting .12GA-Slugs...and just like slug-shooting, technique is a primary factor when dealing with felt, and/or percieved recoil. If you can handle, [or learn to handle] the effects of a standard .12GA slug, coming from a standard pump-shotgun, with a standard length-barrel....you'll be fine with a .375Cal-Rifle. Like a slug-gun though, make sure your Legth-of-Pull is not TOOOO-LONG, and ensure a QUALITY Recoil-Pad is properly-installed. My 375Cal-Rifles seem to "shove" rather than sharply-kick.
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Yep, the 375 has a big heavy push which is quite managable. I too can handle the recoil of the 300 mag no problems. I found the recoil from a fairly hot .338 Win mag 250gr load to be alot sharper and more noticable than the .375, but even that wasn't totally unbearable. Guess things change moving up to 40 cal and bigger.
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:02 AM
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I was filling out the paper work on a Ruger#1 in 375H&H the other day. Several of the onlookers in the shop were blathering on about how the rifle would just cripple a man if he was foolish enough to shoot it. I politely listened, and just told them that I felt that I needed something a little more potent than the 22lr for squirells next year, and left them to their opinions that were based on nothing other than they had seen the shells before. I find my new 375 quite pleasant to shoot. I don't have anything else to compare it to because it has a recoil all its own. Its a stout shove straght back. Can't wait untill I can put together a bolt action in this caliber.
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