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Old 02-03-2006, 09:18 PM
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Question what is the best grain for .308 when hunting whitail


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what is the best grain for .308 when hunting whitail i was told about 145 what do you guys think?
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:54 PM
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Welcome to the forum marlinman. If I were hunting elk with the 308 I would go for a 165 grain or 180 grain bullet.

The classic bullet designed for the 308 is the 150 grainer. That's not much difference. Either will work fine for deer. The 145 will come out a little faster, but the 150 with a slightly higher sectional density carries up a little better and has a little more energy.

There really close enough that I doubt you or the deer would notice any difference at practical hunting ranges.

How well these bullets do also depends upon the barrel length of your rifle. I have a Rem mod 7 308 with the 18.5 inch bbl and I loose over a hundred feet per second to my buddies 22 inch bbl model 700 Rem 308.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:26 PM
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thanks i have a ruger. this guy i know shot 145's hornady ballistic tipped @200 yard he stuck three touching shots
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I'd suggest trying several different loads, and pick the one that shoots best in your rifle. The ballistic tip type bullets usually are very accurate, but a light weight ballistic tip at shorter ranges would probably damage a lot of meat. Whitetails don't need that much killing power, but I think I'd rather go with something a little heavier with a soft point.
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Old 02-04-2006, 06:02 AM
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I'd suggest trying several different loads, and pick the one that shoots best in your rifle. The ballistic tip type bullets usually are very accurate, but a light weight ballistic tip at shorter ranges would probably damage a lot of meat. Whitetails don't need that much killing power, but I think I'd rather go with something a little heavier with a soft point.
Gunslinger makes a good point with his last sentence. I shoot lots of different bullets in different weights for a specific caliber but when I go to the field I take either semi spitzers or round nose ammo. I also lean toward the heavier bullets for the cartridge. I don't own a 308 but I think the 165 grain family would be a good choice for the powder charge. My light weight bullet/load for my 300 is a 180 grainer and the heavy weight comes in at 220 grains with the favorite being a 200 grain semi spitzer. Same school of thought for my 7mm Rem Mag and 25-06.
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My Winchester Model 88, .308, 22" barrel loves 165 grain leads. Hornady Ballistic tips, or boattails that Federal loads into its premiums. Good Hunting
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For whitetails 162's thru 168's. But pick the most accurate bullet that you can find. Even if it's heavier. ----pruhdlr
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150's to 165's which ever shoots best in your rifle
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I would go anywhere from 145-180, depending on the distances you plan to shoot. If you hunt in thick woods and won't be shooting too far, then the heavier bullet would be best. If your shooting long ranges you want a lighter bullet so there won't be as much drop. Any will kill a deer though. You just have to figure out whats best for you hunting situation.

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The old fashioned 180 grain round nose bullet is a good choice. Out to about 200 yards it shoots flat enough to kill any deer assuming a 3" high at 100 yards zero point.

The 180 grainer with all that lead exposed opens up fast upon impact but has the weight and momentum to penetrate through the body from any angle.

My .308 Remington shoots it's very best groups with FEDERAL Classic ammo featuring the 150 grain HI-SHOK bullet. With this combo, I've taken large bodied mulies way out there at the 300 yard mark.
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The ideal bullet weight can depend on where you are hunting, and what type of deer are there. Whitetail deer can range in size from 100 pounds to over 250. Factor in whether or not you are stand hunting (undisturbed deer, often broadside), or still hunting (possibly disturbed, angle variable), and the choice could change.
In my experience there is nothing wrong with the standard 150 grain bullet. I have used the Hornady 150 grain Spire Point with great success from an accuracy and performance point of view. They easily went through a big deer, broadside. I haven't had to try other shots with it. The 180 grain also works, and all weights have their fans (as can be seen by the e-mail notes above).
Short answer is, I don't believe that there is anything wrong with any of the 150, 165 and 180 grain bullets for general deer hunting. The preference may be more psychological (you have had succes with it, great accuracy) than real performance differences.
Try them for accuracy, and how you like the different recoil.
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Old 02-05-2006, 01:56 PM
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I'm with Gunslinger and Flashhole, althou I didn't own any 30cal rifles until I purchased a Winchester 30-30 last fall, my experiance is with the 270 Winchester, chose a heavyer consructed bullet, the plastic tiped ones (specificaly the Winchester/Nosler balisic silver tip) are very accurate but will disinigrate if they hit bone, I've swiched over to Barns Tripple Shocks and Nosler Partition Gold's for the 270.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:53 PM
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150gn sierra sfb, imr4064 most any primer and case. With the above combination(load from an accuracy load from lymans older manual) I've seen this combo do three rounds touching at 200yds from a bench gun, the same fella used it in his rem 760 and done an honest 1.5 at 200yds.
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I found the 165 Gr.the best all around bullet for the 308.
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In heavy cover I tend to use the 180 RN bullet.
It does not take much for the spire points to head south in the 308 calipier.
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Old 02-08-2006, 05:54 AM
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Just for whitetails?...standard, pointed 150 gr.

In .308 a high quality 165 gr. bullet will work very well for all large game in the Americas except the big bears.

Many rifles in .308 don't seem to handle the heavier bullets as accurately as the 150s and 165s. And most of us, if we are honest, probably shoot better with lighter bullets and a tad less recoil.
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Personally prefer a 150 grain, lead tipped bullet in 308. I'm a real fan of the Nosler Solid Base, though Sierra, Hornady, Speer all make a decent bullet. It really doesn't take a super robust bullet for white tail. You can spend more for the premium bullets if you like. To be honest, if you don't reload I don't think you can go wrong with the Winchester 150 grain Super-X Power Point. They are readily available (Wal Mart or country store) don't cost a mint and really work quite well on deer. My opinion and experience for what that's worth.
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:44 PM
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I own two 308's with 22 in barrels and they both absolutely love Hornady 165gr SST (not SSt Interlocks). With BLC-2 i'm getting under an inch group at 100 yds and they kill Florida deer quickly but if I'm in rough/short/unfamiliar terrain where I may run into hogs also then I'll carry my 44 mag with 310 WNFP gas checked rounds just in case. 165's may not stop a hog as well lol especially if they are ballistic tip in design. A 180gr will work for brush work and if you expect to hunt deer in an area where larger predators live (aka bear) then the preference leans to a Mag Tip (large meplate) or RN being the economical choice. If I'm in bear territory then it's a heavy Trophy Bonded Bear Claw or Grand Slam just in case because they like dear also and will hear the shot.
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Pick the right bullet and weight don't matter much. SST's or Nosler BT's only. They'll explode no matter what. The 165 gr wins in the ballistics contest tho'. Not much more recoil than the 150 but better trajectory and energy holds out to 250 yards. And beats the 180 gr. btw as well, since the trajectory is flatter.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:55 AM
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what is the best grain for .308 when hunting whitetail

Me personally i've got a new 308 and sighted it in with Federal 165gr fusion ammo and with a 24" barrel grouped very well.I plan on these for whitetail hunting.
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