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Old 03-06-2006, 03:11 PM
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Who here likes the 222 or has experience with it. I found a good deal on above gun .
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:24 PM
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The "triple duce" has long been associated with benchrest shooters. Sorta edged out the past few years by the BR cartridges, though.

The .222 is the forerunner of the .223, developed in the early 50's for the military.

It has fine accuracy potential, but today is a handloading proposition.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:10 PM
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The second gun I ever hunted with was that combination. Of course I have only shot the 20ga part of it. The first gun I ever hunted with was a 22wmr on top of a .410. Again only shot the .410 part. The former is my mom's gun and the latter is my dad's. I think my dad had a big influence in my mom's gun though because he swears by the .222rem.
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Also, I have heard of many folk reaming their 222 to 223. I figure the saving in ammo over time would pay the gunsmithing costs, but ruin the value maybe. Any thoughts?? What would the expected gunsmithing cost be?

Will the 222 shoot in a 223 chamber??
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Also, I have heard of many folk reaming their 222 to 223. I figure the saving in ammo over time would pay the gunsmithing costs, but ruin the value maybe. Any thoughts?? What would the expected gunsmithing cost be?

Will the 222 shoot in a 223 chamber??
The .222 and the .223 have different twist barrels. Would not suggest that you try to make a .222 into a .223. Both are very accurate. I personally would pick the .222. I prefer accuracy over speed. But don't take that wrong, both will shoot about the same. I just don't need the extra speed that the .223 offers.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:07 PM
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Dad had the very combination you speak of. After about 3 shots the 222 barrel's accuracy went south but if you went slow it was pretty accurate. 2 inch groups with factory ammo. I'm not sure of whatever happened to that gun I've got a 222 in 788 remington now and a 223 in 788 that used to be a 222. It sure likes light bullets as fast as you can make them go
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:06 PM
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I have a 24V 222/20 from back when Savage was still Savage. Rem & Win 50gr factory ammo will produce 2" or less @ 100yds. Don't recall who, Rem, Fed or Win, used to load a 40 or 45gr hollowpoint that would shoot 1.5" or less but was considerably more expensive. Fed 50gr shot best with groups holding 1.25" to 1.5"

Haven't had time to load anything for this one lately and I broke down and just bought a few boxes of S&B. 50gr soft point listed as having a MV of 3215 fps. Shot three groups of 5 rounds with these, all under 1.5" with the iron sights, buddy shot the last set of 5 and printed a 1.1" group (eyes better than mine I suppose?).

Aside from the weight, I like this gun. If I was looking purely at a survival gun, I'd opt for a bigger rifle caliber, at least 30-30 but would prefer 7.62x54R or other similar powered rimmed cartridge. .222 is nice but being rimless means having an extra extractor part to break and handling the small rimless cases with less than nimble hands is a chore, also the additional power would be welcome in a survival situation. Staying with this, the whole thing would be stripped of as much weight as possible and made from stainless and composite for both weight savings and corrosion protection.

I've added the Savage four-tenner (insert tube to shoot .410 ammo out of the 20ga) to this combo and it makes for an awesome multi-purpose platform.
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There is also a 30/30 - 20 Ga. Savage 24 for sale down the road from me at a shop. I can buy it for 300-325 out the door. Would that be an expected price or a deal.

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Most Mod 24's will run between $150 - $175 in excellent condition. A 24C that has a nickel finish will be about $200 in similar condition, a 24VS at $250 and a 24F (rynite stock) would go for $300.

You need to know what the actual model # is to determine worth.
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:28 AM
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Most Mod 24's will run between $150 - $175 in excellent condition. A 24C that has a nickel finish will be about $200 in similar condition, a 24VS at $250 and a 24F (rynite stock) would go for $300.
Those prices sound great, but they don't appear to be real world market prices. On the auction sites, most or all the 24s start the bidding around 250-300, many are bidding 400-500.
The owner of the shop used to have the 30-30 /20 Ga. as his own gun. I have bought many guns at his shop because of his low prices. He cuts me great deals which make many purchases irresistable. This gun he has listed for 350.00 but will sell to me for 300.00 and that he says is ging me a deal.
I wish I could find the 24s for 150-175, but the truth is, I have never seen one so low. Always seen them for 275 up to 450.
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Old 03-09-2006, 08:10 AM
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Prices quoted from the 2006 Standard Catalog of Firearms, from the publishers of GunList. If you already knew the prices in your area and on auction sites, why ask?
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I haven't found any 24's running less than $275 unless they were broken or abused.
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If you already knew the prices in your area and on auction sites, why ask?
Auction site research was done after you quoted those low prices. Why not get the opinion of your peers who may be more knowledgable of this gun and it's value, as I am ignorant of it. I think you will find that 150- 175 in shops will be a miracle at best. At 300.00, I has hoping for the opinion of someone who may be a fan of the 24. I am of the opinion now that 300.00 is not a steal, nor a great deal either. Thanks for the opinions.
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Old 03-14-2006, 04:42 PM
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Most Mod 24's will run between $150 - $175 in excellent condition. A 24C that has a nickel finish will be about $200 in similar condition, a 24VS at $250 and a 24F (rynite stock) would go for $300.

You need to know what the actual model # is to determine worth.
I remember when these were accurate prices, but that was many, many years ago. A good way to judge current prices is to look at the COMPLETED AUCTIONS in Gunbroker and AuctionArms. A look at Gunbroker for Savage 24s that *actually sold* shows a minty 22/410 at $369, a 22mag/20 DL at $425 and a decent 22/410 for $260. Times have changed.
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Need to tell that to Gunlist, then.
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