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Old 08-15-2006, 09:53 PM
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Elk factory loads for .280


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My son may be going elk hunting with me this season, using a Ruger 77 in .280 Rem. What's your experiences with this caliber on elk, and some factory loads that have been used successfully? Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:19 PM
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I personally think it's a little light for elk, but if your going to use it use heavy for the caliber well constructed bullets such as 160 to 175 grainers. Barns, Nosler partitions and Speer grand slams all work well.

Be extra careful with your shots and stay under 200 yards.

Be sure and get him a bunch of practice from field postions. It's worth the time to get one of the full sized cardboard elk targets or make one up and shoot from various distances expecially for a beginning elk hunter. It's not expensive to cut out a cardboard or plywood full sized elk.

I've hunted elk now for 45 years or so and found they can be tough critters to put down.

several years ago I stopped doing the heart lung shot and do a front shoulder shot. I loose a little meat that way, but I've spent a bunch of time digging dead elk from some terrible steep brushy downed timber creek bottoms. If you've got a bullet that will break those front shoulder bones very few elk will go far.

I use a Remington 8mm magnum with 220 grain Seirra boattail bullets at 3050 fps. My 280 does the deer hunting.

I'm not saying the 280 won't do in an elk, it will. Got a friend whom's wife has killed a bunch of elk with her 243. She mostly shoots cows and perfers a neck shot and simply won't take an animal much past a hundred yards. She is simply deadly with it under those conditions.

My hunting partner uses a 7mm Remington Mag and has taken a pile of elk with Speers 175 grain Grand slam. he pushes this fine bullet near 3010 fps and it breaks both shoulders on a big bull.

I Think if your boy is careful and gets in some good practice before the season he'll do alright with that 280. I know if I'm deer hunting and had the chance for a nice bull (and a tag of course) I'd probably take it if I could get close enough. (probably pass on shots much past 150 yards) I'm old and the eyes are going.

I picked up a Rem 280 Mountian rifle last year and it killed a nice whitetail in a friends hands. I'm hoping to duplicate his success this fall with it. I'm not sure I'm going to hunt elk this fall with our populations falling off so bad here in Northern Idaho.

I'm so glad to see a father taking his son on an elk hunt. Such a sad thing so many dads are to busy to do things like that in this day and age.

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Old 08-15-2006, 10:50 PM
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Thanks Faucettb. I have used the 30-06 and 7mag for elk, and currently use a 300RUM, so am much in agreement with your advice and experience. My son has no affinity for recoil, so the .280 is his only preference. I've cut an antelope out of pressedwood in the past and pasted an antelope picture on it, and it worked great for practice. An elk may prove daunting, but I like the idea of it in cardboard. For the record, its a mother taking her son elk hunting....dad is out of the picture.
I haven't seen any 175 Noslers on the shelves., but did notice some 160gr Trophey Bonded Bear Claws. I've used the Bear claws successfully on elk in my 7mag, but they were the 175grainers. I better check some of the internet places like Midway.

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Old 08-16-2006, 07:51 AM
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160accubond from federal.
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:48 AM
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Rem, OK, I found the Federal Premium Nosler Accubond in 160gr. Is that what you're talking about? I'm learning that there's nothing available right now bigger than the 160gr for the .280 online or in any of the shooting catalogues that I have.
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would for sure go with 160 weight with a spire point or a spitzer. wouldn't even blink if I had to shoot out to 300 yds.
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Rem, OK, I found the Federal Premium Nosler Accubond in 160gr. Is that what you're talking about? I'm learning that there's nothing available right now bigger than the 160gr for the .280 online or in any of the shooting catalogues that I have.
280 uses any 7mm (.284) diameter bullet. Speers 175 grain grand slams work well in it, but any well constructed .284/7mm diameter bullet will work.

For deer in my 280 mountian rifle I'm shooting 139 Hornedy SST's and recoil is nil.

Oh, I see your talking about factory ammo and your right. Been loading so long I've got to shift gears to start thinking factory offerings. Sorry

I really like the 280. It comes very close to 7mm mag performance with a lot less powder and recoil. Mine with a 2.8-10 Simmons ATEC and loaded comes in at just over seven pounds. It's a joy to carry and shoot. My hunting partner and I are both so crippled up that were just going to do the whitetail thing this fall.

I do a lot of stand hunting anymore. Let those young guys stir up and chase the animals to me.
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:51 PM
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Rem, OK, I found the Federal Premium Nosler Accubond in 160gr. Is that what you're talking about? I'm learning that there's nothing available right now bigger than the 160gr for the .280 online or in any of the shooting catalogues that I have.
Yes. Going about 2800fps compared to 2950 in 7mm Rem. Mag.
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Sounds good, thanks. Faucettb, the area in Wyoming we're going to is any elk. It has really varying terrain, with the most creeks, wallows, small meadows, and heavy timber in my area. And its not as rugged as the tetons or shoshoni NF. I can only do 2 days of hunting at a time, then rest up a half day or so. That's when I'll be sitting with a cup of coffee and the Marlin 444, glassing the creek. Once shot a cow elk 50 yards from camp....

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Old 08-16-2006, 07:23 PM
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I've always liked the 280 but factory ammo has not done it justice. There sure isn't a very large selection given the number of bullets available in this caliber. Before I loaded I used Federal ammo and it's always done a fine job for me so I can't argue with that choice. They also make a 150 grn Nosler Partition. To throw a few others out there, Norma makes a 156 grn load with their Oryx bullet (on sale at Cabelas site) and Remington makes a 165 grn Core Lokt load. Good luck!
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I dropped a huge bodied 6x6 in its tracks with one shot with the little 139gr. Hornady Light Magnums. Put the bullet where it belongs and you'll like what the .280 can do!

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I saw the Norma 156gr Oryx in the Cabalas catalogue. Do you know how the Oryx performs? The store near me sells the Nosler 150gr, but I think I'll go with bigger grains. I want him to have the best opportunity to down an elk, if he gets a shot. Thanks to all.
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Well, I'll definitely order a few boxes of the Nosler Accubond to start. We'll see if they group well in the Ruger. If I can find some of those Core lokt 165's, and they shoot ok, at least he'll have something to practice with to start. And I guess I better not discount the the 150gr Noslers or the Trophey Bonded 160's in case The rifle doesn't like the Accubonds. He has used the 140gr Cor lokts on deer and antelope with good accuracy.

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When I was 12 (long before I learned that a 50 BMG was needed for elk), I bought , with docking money, a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Rem. Exp. (.280 Rem). In S.W. Wyo at the time all we could find for factory ammo was the 165 Rem. Core Loct, to my fathers dismay. His one and only rifle to this day is an Arisaka action in 7X57 imp. and only uses Hor. 139's with a healthy dose of 4831. He believed in breaking out with open sights and with such I brought home antelope, deer, and elk at ranges from 50 - 300 yards. I never reclaimed a bullet. Reflecting I wonder why I deflected. Now I have rifles from 223 - 458, a depleted bank account, and a room full of reloading equipment, yet the only game animal that I have taken since 79 without that 280 was a bison with a 1895 in 45/70, and I am sure the 280 was up to that. If you can get it in your head that you can do it, you will. Positive reiforcement and confidence brings home game, not $$$$. Good hunting and happy memories.

P.S. My grandfather chastised me for going overbore and wasting meat as he brought home the same meat with a 25/35 Win.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:30 AM
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I saw the Norma 156gr Oryx in the Cabalas catalogue. Do you know how the Oryx performs? The store near me sells the Nosler 150gr, but I think I'll go with bigger grains. I want him to have the best opportunity to down an elk, if he gets a shot. Thanks to all.
The Oryx is a bonded bullet and it expands well and retains good weight. Here's an article that showed how many bullets performed in a test with a 300 Win Mag and two diffrent velocity levels, including the Oryx:

http://www.huntingmag.com/guns_loads/HMbul_0905/
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That was a great article, very informative. Thanks!
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:32 AM
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Outdoor life's somewhat new article on the 280 http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/s...153256,00.html
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Cool history lesson! Thanks. While the writer listed the 140gr NP as his "go to" load for elk, I'm guessing it probably packed more handloader's punch than the factory 150gr.
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.280 for elk

I've taken elk and nilgai with my .280, both with 160gr Nosler Partition bullets. I wouldn't use anything else. I believe Federal carries them
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