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Old 12-03-2006, 09:18 AM
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9.3x62 VS. .35Whelen


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Was wondering what the pros and cons were for each cartridge... I have always wanted a .35Whelen; have owned the reloading dies for years, but yet to get the rifle.
I always wanted a .257Roberts, but when I found my CZ550FS, the 6.5x55 took its place.
I know they also make the CZ550FS in 9.3x62, so I am wondering if this should replace my lusting for the Whelen? The goal here is a good 300yd. elk rifle...

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Old 12-03-2006, 09:50 AM
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Both are in the same bracket for what they do. I've got to say I like the bigger bores for a game rifle. I've been shooting an 8mm for years now for elk and deer both.

I've really lusted after one of the CZ 550 full stocks and in the 9.3 by 62 it would make a dandy elk rifle. I'm not so sure about doing the 300 yard thing with it though. Even with my 8mm Rem mag that's about the limit of my shooting any more.

I know I have two CZ's, a 527 in 204 Ruger and a 452 Lux that are so accurate it's scary. Of course the ideal thing would be to get both. Just remember you can never own enough guns, and please don't let your wife read that.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:25 AM
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I would go with the 9.3x62mm. I have owned several, three Steyrs (Luxus, Model M and a SBS) and still have a custom Mauser with a PacNor barrel. Have seen the 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 performing in Africa, and they did a superb job, like any other rifle if the shooter does his part of the equation. I suspect that the 9.3mm bullets are a little better than those available for the .35 as well, although I cannot say that for certain. IMHO, I like Noslers and RWS, but there are plenty of options from Norma, S&B, Privi Partisan, and Speer to choose from. One of the new CZ's would be a slick way to go, and then I notice 9.3x62mm Steyr SBSs on the web auctions too.

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Old 12-03-2006, 04:32 PM
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My vote goes for the 9.3, dandy cartridge, combine with the right rifle & tuned loads, it'll do the 300 yard thing on elk w/o a problem.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:28 PM
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If you're going the CZ route my vote would be for the 9.3X62 but I'm not sure about the 300 yard qualifier with the short barrel on the 550FS. If you went the 550 route with the longer barrel you still get the benefit of the single set trigger with the added distance of the longer barrel.

Ruger just came out with a #1 in 9.3X74. More umph with the same bullet.
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:07 PM
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The 9.3 all the way. Look at the shape of the case and you can see the potential. The shoulder is further forward. so capacity is increased. I like the 550 FS, mine are in 6.5 and 9.3 and both are excellent. The best I could do with My .35 was about 2500 fps with a 250 grainer. My 9.3 does just shy of 2500 with a 286 gr Partition, and nothing walks away from it.

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Old 12-06-2006, 12:34 PM
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I've got a large ring Czech 98 action sitting in the safe and been bondering the same question for awhile now. Seems barrels are easier to come by for the 35 Whelen and lighter 357 pistol bullets can be used for low velocity loads but limited factory ammo. The 9.3 has heavier bullets availible and more selection if you can find the European stuff.

The 9.3x74mm is generally about same as it has a lower working pressure for double guns.

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I'm looking for a '17 Enfield for a donor. I want the rear sights intact to build a 9.3X62. Then I may buy a 9.3 CZ FS. One must have a couple of everything he owns. I sold both 458s so I want a good medium bore for most of the US. Bandito
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:36 AM
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Was wondering what the pros and cons were for each cartridge... I have always wanted a .35Whelen; have owned the reloading dies for years, but yet to get the rifle.
I always wanted a .257Roberts, but when I found my CZ550FS, the 6.5x55 took its place.
I know they also make the CZ550FS in 9.3x62, so I am wondering if this should replace my lusting for the Whelen? The goal here is a good 300yd. elk rifle...

Thanks,
Jim
The 9.3 x 62 is a great cartridge. Norma make great factory ammo for it and you can buy plenty of good hunting projectiles for it. The 9.3 x 62 is just behind the 375H&H in performance, so I don't think there is too much on the planet that it won't kill. But then again I think theres not an Elk out there that will pick the difference in being dispatched with either cartridge. Both will do the trick. I reckon it will boil down to which cartridge comes along first in a rifle that you like and at a price that is acceptable.

But my personal preference would be for the 9.3 x 62. To me it just radiates style.
Good luck with your Wapiti hunting.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:51 PM
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No ones mentioned recoil? The 9.3 I fired kicked like a mule. Much harder then a Whelen. I found the 338/06 and the 35s recoil not much worse then my 06. The 9.3 another story.
I can think of a lot of great rifles for elk if you don't mind dislocating your neck
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Old 12-22-2006, 05:59 AM
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The 338-06 doesn't get a lot of thread play in this forum but it is certainly a good candidate, as is an 8mm-06. Seems to be voo-doo like disdain for 8mm stuff in the US. Don't know why, looks like a good bullet/cartridge choice to me.

What gun were you shooting in 9.3?
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I'm looking for a '17 Enfield for a donor. I want the rear sights intact to build a 9.3X62. Then I may buy a 9.3 CZ FS. One must have a couple of everything he owns. I sold both 458s so I want a good medium bore for most of the US. Bandito
When your done it will look something like this
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The 338-06 doesn't get a lot of thread play in this forum but it is certainly a good candidate, as is an 8mm-06. Seems to be voo-doo like disdain for 8mm stuff in the US. Don't know shy, looks like a good bullet/cartridge choice to me.

What gun were you shooting in 9.3?
It was a imported Mauser a club member brought to the range.The name escapes me now. Nice gun and nicely weighted. I wasn't anxious to fire it a second time though
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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No ones mentioned recoil? The 9.3 I fired kicked like a mule. Much harder then a Whelen. I found the 338/06 and the 35s recoil not much worse then my 06. The 9.3 another story.
I can think of a lot of great rifles for elk if you don't mind dislocating your neck
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:53 AM
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It was a imported Mauser a club member brought to the range.The name escapes me now. Nice gun and nicely weighted. I wasn't anxious to fire it a second time though

It wasn't a 9.3 X 64 Berenke was it? There is a big difference between the 9.3 X 64 and 9.3 X 62. The Berenke will hold an additional 8 grains of powder. The 9.3 X 62 case is on the order of size of a 30-06 case. The Berenke is significantly larger.
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It wasn't a 9.3 X 64 Berenke was it? There is a big difference between the 9.3 X 64 and 9.3 X 62. The Berenke will hold an additional 8 grains of powder. The 9.3 X 62 case is on the order of size of a 30-06 case. The Berenke is significantly larger.
30-06 is 7.62 x 63
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The 30-06 and the 9.3 X 62 have roughly the same case diameter (.473" - .476") whereas the 9.3 X 64 is larger (.507). I think both 9.3 cartridges are referred to as "9.3" which may lend some confusion as to which is which. You can really confuse the issue in you toss in the 9.3 X 74 and refer to it as the 9.3 also.
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The 30-06 and the 9.3 X 62 have roughly the same case diameter (.473" - .476") whereas the 9.3 X 64 is larger (.507). I think both 9.3 cartridges are referred to as "9.3" which may lend some confusion as to which is which. You can really confuse the issue in you toss in the 9.3 X 74 and refer to it as the 9.3 also.
OOPS! I didn't realize you were talking case diameter. Sorry.
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I should have said fatter, not larger. It would have made more sense.
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