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Old 03-04-2007, 11:55 AM
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Went to a small gunshow yesterday, didn't see anything except very high prices.

On the way back we saw a sign for an auction at a gunshop. Got there in time to pickup a Savage 340 in 30-30. Heard of them, never saw one. Got it cheap. It is in very good condition. Tried it today, this is going to be one of those odd shoot the heck out it rifles because it is fun. Have to get another magazine for it. Found them on ebay and at Numrich.

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:21 PM
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Count me as a 340 fan...like the odd looking rifles.

Couple of points:

Scoping:

It's going to take a side mount...should be tapped for it already. Were at least 3 mounts...a Savage pressed steel mount, a Weaver alloy mount, and B-square. STROUNGLY recommend that you have the mount in hand before going scope-shopping; the way the rings are spaced and the inability to move rings b ack and forth is going to require just the right length scope body / saddle placement. Current trend in scopes, even, long ones, is a short tube body with wide flares leading to the objective and occular...so many scoeps that are long don't mave much tube body.

Bedding:
You'll notice that the rifle is held in with one action screw and a barrel band out near the forend tip. Playing around with the tesnion on that barrel band can really pay off.

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OVer the years, have played with every caliber these little rifles came in: .22Hornet, .222, 223, 30-30, and a short run of 340V's in .225. It's propbably at it's best in 30-30.

Long ago, at college (the first time) a buddy gave me a feed sack of 150gr. FMJ's. Evidently there was a fire at some armory, and these were .308 "pop offs" that were swept up after the fire. How many bullets?..don't know, had to strain to lift the feed sack, and I was a young man them. Some were a bit discoilored and some wre a bit dented, but sorthing out the bad ones still left a giant pile of bullets.

HAd a 340 and an H&R topper...a little beat it with a stick Lee Loader..lots of spare time.....and (most important) permission to shoot at an old gravel pit.

Think that's what made that soft spot for 340's.

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:50 PM
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Shot my first Whitetail buck with a Savage 340 .30-30 in Pennsylvania about 50 years ago. It just had the factory open sights and we never "benched" it, but as I recall it shot as well as lever action .30-30s, .32s and .35s from improvised sight-in positions.

An uncle had a Model 340 in .22 Hornet for woodchucks at that time which we considered "very accurate". He used it one year to shoot a large 9 point buck behind the ear after his physician told him not to shoot his .32 Remington or .300 Savage because of the recoil while recovering from a heart attack. It had a scope that had a dot for 100 yards and a smaller dot for 200 yards. I understand he had the dot reticle made for the scope on that rifle.

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Old 03-04-2007, 02:53 PM
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Had a 340 in 30-30. Found the Hornady 135 gr bullets were very accurate in it.

Williams makes a side mount (or, used to).
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:22 PM
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I scrounged until I found an aperture rear for mine (and isn't it funny how many 340 owners pop up?). I bought it with the plan to shoot nothing but cast bullets in it.

Sweet shooter despite the godawful trigger. I use mine to plunk with (too big a caliber to plink, LOL!) It's accurate, fun, and draws attention at the range - most guys have never heard of a bolt-action .30-30.
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Thanks for the replies and advice on the scopes. Don't know if I will scope it but was going to get a mount from Numrich just in case.

Maybe I can find an old straight tube Weaver for it some day.
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The good news is that many of the cheap scopes (at least currently) are of the long type...basic 4X would do the trick fine...think I coughed up all of $25 for one at a local big-house sporting goods store. Get the mount, mount it, and then measure what you need from eye to saddle (adjusting turrets).

Peeps/apatrues are a little more difficult, unless made specific for that rifle. That split-top breech makes mounting "normal" apatrues diffcult/impossible.

Keep in mind, those actions are at their best run to factory pressure levels...don't go off experimenting becasue it runs with a bolt. One locking lug...Kind of like a Krag...and it resents being pushed too hard. Anything listed for a Win. 94 would be safe.

They are cast bullet freindly...only took me a three semisters to burn up that feed-bag of bullets, but once I did, started casting (sneeking into Chem. Lab late at night to cast over a couple of bunsen burners).
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:33 AM
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.... once I did, started casting (sneeking into Chem. Lab late at night to cast over a couple of bunsen burners).
So that's what Chem majors are doing in the lab late at night.

One night when I was leaving a new biology lab housing the grad student offices, the elevator door opened to reveal another grad student in the elevator standing over a nice whitetail buck. He had euthanized it with an arrow earlier in the day. It was the first animal to be dissected in that lab.
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:32 PM
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Thanks for the input. I have a Saeco mould that casts a FN, a RN and a spire point 170gr bullet in 308. Now I have a use for it. Ordered the sizing die today.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:48 PM
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A Savage 340 was my first deer rifle. I miss it. It was real ugly, wood and metal but shot real fine... I was a little ahead of my time because I painted it completely flat black. It was very much at home in the South Texas brush.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:43 AM
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Picked up a pre GCA '68 (no serial) 340 a couple of months ago. Broken buttplate, and missing screw on the front sight, so I got it pretty cheaply. Refinished the stock, added the side mount, and stuck on an old Weaver K-3. Haven't had the chance to try it out, yet, but looking forward to it.
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:11 PM
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Numrich seemed to have quite a selection of parts. Bought a barrel band and some screws, also an extra extractor.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:15 AM
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Question on mounts

Bought a springfield 840 rifle with older 7/8" weaver v22 with factory side mount. This is not over center of bore. Want to replace scope with newer 1" variable power. Will the weaver side mount or the b square mount put the scope over center?

any idea which is better mount?
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Count me as a 340 fan...like the odd looking rifles.

Couple of points:

Scoping:

It's going to take a side mount...should be tapped for it already. Were at least 3 mounts...a Savage pressed steel mount, a Weaver alloy mount, and B-square. STROUNGLY recommend that you have the mount in hand before going scope-shopping; the way the rings are spaced and the inability to move rings b ack and forth is going to require just the right length scope body / saddle placement. Current trend in scopes, even, long ones, is a short tube body with wide flares leading to the objective and occular...so many scoeps that are long don't mave much tube body.

Bedding:
You'll notice that the rifle is held in with one action screw and a barrel band out near the forend tip. Playing around with the tesnion on that barrel band can really pay off.

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OVer the years, have played with every caliber these little rifles came in: .22Hornet, .222, 223, 30-30, and a short run of 340V's in .225. It's propbably at it's best in 30-30.

Long ago, at college (the first time) a buddy gave me a feed sack of 150gr. FMJ's. Evidently there was a fire at some armory, and these were .308 "pop offs" that were swept up after the fire. How many bullets?..don't know, had to strain to lift the feed sack, and I was a young man them. Some were a bit discoilored and some wre a bit dented, but sorthing out the bad ones still left a giant pile of bullets.

HAd a 340 and an H&R topper...a little beat it with a stick Lee Loader..lots of spare time.....and (most important) permission to shoot at an old gravel pit.

Think that's what made that soft spot for 340's.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:41 PM
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Bought a springfield 840 rifle with older 7/8" weaver v22 with factory side mount. This is not over center of bore. Want to replace scope with newer 1" variable power. Will the weaver side mount or the b square mount put the scope over center?

any idea which is better mount?
Both of the side mounts I've used (Weaver and Savage)..will still mount on the side, but curves over to get the scope over the bore...or at least close. OF the two, the Weaver was the better mount...had a base that mounted to the side, and a second section that mounted to the base...had more room to posision the scope fore and aft. May find that it's not dead center over the bore by 1/8" or so..doesn't seem to make one bit of difference. Has to be a side mount, the way the action runs, you just can't top-mount a scope.

Here is a picture from Brownel's (just becasue they ahve the best picture...once you know the mount numbr, can shop around if you like):
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/sto...26+BASES+-+R-Z

In that picture, the flat base sectiona t the bottom fits to the side of the gun...notice it has two threaded holes at the top...the ring section has two thumb-nuts...the top ring section screws onto that base section and hqanges (more or less) over the center line of the bore.

Also notice that there is no provision for moving the rings back and fotrth...so I'd suggest you have mount in hand before buying a scope, just so you know it will fit.

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Hot dang!

I just bought one too!
Came with the side scope mount and base.
I bought a new magazine for it thru Brownells, and now it feeds, as it would not with the original. The mag thru Brownells was top quality too!
The only thing I have done was clean the wood as it was filthy, and change the factory rear sight to an old semi buckhorn rear. The buckhorn is much, much easier to use and sight with.
The fact that it is thutty-thutty just seals the deal.
I will post some pics of it tomorrow.
I cannot wait to shoot it, and deveolope a load for Marshall's 160FNLGC boo-lit
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As promised, here are some pics of the 340C
this is what it looked like at purchase:


With scope base, mount and rings mounted. Chose a low power Redfield for glass:



the folding buckhon sights:




the working end:
the Scope has a German reticle, post w/ horizontal




The stock:


I thing this rifle in it's current configuration would make a great all around gun for hunting, camping, deep wood hiking. The 30-30 is proven for just about every Northeast game we have around here, and once I work a specific load up, I may be thinning the herd of some of my levers in thutty-thutty.
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Good old gun...and a great period scope to go with it...post and crosshair seemed popular in the 1950's; it's really not a bad set up.
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Good old gun...and a great period scope to go with it...post and crosshair seemed popular in the 1950's; it's really not a bad set up.
Well here it is almost 2 months later, and I finally got to the range to shoot the Savage 340.
With remington Factory 170 grain ammo, this thing is a tack-driver. At 50 yards, it shot a .522" group off a cheapy Midway rest & bag.
At 100, it opened to a tiny 1.25" group.
I ended up having to purchase a new magazine, as the old would not feed.
Handloads did not fare as well, with my Hornaday 170FN loads shooting about 2.75" at 100, and Marshall's Cast doing about the same. Still acceptable by "Minute-of-bambi" parameters.
I'll have to work on the BTB load, to get it to equal the Remmie stuff, but for now, I know I can find Accurate ammo for it practically anywhere.

I am interested in also loading some 100 or 110 grainers, but bunnies and critters, as well as trying some 155 or 168 grain match bullets just to see what she can do with those too!

Not too shabby for a whopping total of $125 invested.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:55 PM
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Right fine shootin' Chris.

Try a few 125 Ballistic Tips, too. They beat the 110s for varmints and are great deer bullets at .30-30 speeds, too.

I like W748 in my 340 for top-end loads, AA5744 for slightly reduced ones with cast bullets, and as little as 7.0 grains of 700X, RedDot or Clays for really light ones. Oh, and don't forget my Universal .30 Load of 10.0 Unique and the 100-gr Speer or Hornady half-jacket Plinker. Too much fun for one shooter!
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Funny you mention 748, as that was one i was just going to go downstairs and load a few with....
I had a few shots today that were horrible, all H4198.
The 4064 loads worked well, and H4895 producing the mentioned reload groups.
I know she is not a target or match gun, but if I can get Marshall's Bullets and those Hornaday's down to 1 inch or less, then I'll have a hellova all-around hunting rifle. Not too shabby results so far, but just imagine the possibilities...
I'll load a few 100 grainers too, with 748, I'll report soon.

Thanks, Chris
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