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Old 05-27-2007, 07:16 PM
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Last week I saw one of the older models (has the 2 screws in the sid eof the receiver for aperture sights and date code on barrel is "RO").
Looks to be 95% or so with good mounts and a fair scope.
If bore is excellent and bolt has very little wear on it what would you value it at?
What ammo is available?
Would you bother with this caliber?
I know they have a reputation for accuracy and it wouldn't be the first odd-ball caliber in my safe!
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:50 PM
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Nothing at all wrong with the older 222's and most of them gave outstanding accuracy. Most older Remington's are selling around here in decent shape in the 275 to 350 range for used guns. Unless the scope is a really good one such as a Leupold I usually discount them to zero dollars for a used gun.

Ammunition is still available, but most folks reload for these varmint calibers. I've a friend whom worked as a Federal game control officer and all he ever used was a Remington 222 over a 20 Plus year career.

If the price was reasonable it would be a good addition to your gun safe.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:16 PM
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It's not an oddball calibre in my books. I bought a BDL new in 1972. A crow that was making a nuisance of it's self made a mistake a few days ago. The old .222 connected. As for reloading, this rifle has never fired a factory round since it left the factory. As for bullets, start with the Hornady 50 gr. SX. Most .222s love IMR 4198 but mine doesn't. H322 is my powder now.

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Old 05-28-2007, 07:18 AM
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I think I will go back and try to trade them out of it.
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:04 PM
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I'd never give up my triple duce. It's in a 788 but still shoots better than I can hold it with 40 grain Vmax bullets.

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Old 05-29-2007, 04:17 PM
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Well. I was able to make a trade!
I traded an old .30-30 I wasn't using and some $$ to get her home. Bluing is an honest 98%. Scope will need to go.
Stock looks good except for the fact that one side is much lighter than the other. This may have put some folks off but I could care less. it at elast had one "good" side!
Bolt looks to have minimal wear on it and bore looks excellent.
I've got about $375 into it and a free box of shells.
How'd I do?


You can see the "lighter" side here. Looking at the finish I am very certain that it is a factory finish and has not been refinished at all. Just looks like an odd piece of wood.
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Old 05-29-2007, 06:19 PM
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Probably was kept hanging on a wall or over a fireplace with the left side exposed to daylight. If you are interested in the task, you could strip it and stain the left side to match the right. On the other hand, the way it is, you've got an easy identifier if it is ever stolen? Looks like a good buy. My old Remington 600 triple deuce never groups bigger than a dime. It's always been fed by an old Lee Zero Error Target Model loader. Remington primers. IMR 4198 scooped in. The scoop runs a little under 19 grains IIRC. I've been hearing so much good talk about the CCI BR4 primers in little guns, I am looking forward to trying them in it, too.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:44 PM
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One sid e of mine is lighter too, but it's from being in the back window of a pickup alot.

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Last week I saw one of the older models (has the 2 screws in the sid eof the receiver for aperture sights and date code on barrel is "RO").
Looks to be 95% or so with good mounts and a fair scope.
If bore is excellent and bolt has very little wear on it what would you value it at?
What ammo is available?
Would you bother with this caliber?
I know they have a reputation for accuracy and it wouldn't be the first odd-ball caliber in my safe!
Thanks!
WFR
Now if it is a Rem. model 722, I would purchase it in a jackrabbit minute in the .222 caliber known as the Triple Deuce!

I been looking for one for many years, just never hooked up in the right place. I just purchased a new CZ rifle in the .222 caliber and it now drives tacks at 100 yds using those Hornady 50 gr. V-MAX moly coated bullets. Best group so far is well under a 1/2 inch (.385) from the bench. Velocity is 3,160fps.
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You did great. I wish my .223 was a .222. I had a Rem. 722 in the 1960's when I was in High School. It was one of the first rifles I ever reloaded for. I traded it off like a dumb kid for who-knows-what. That was a long time ago.

A couple years back I saw some new BDLs in .222 at a store in Montana. IIRC they wanted something in the low $400 range. I wish I had busted loose with the $$$ and gotten one of those.

Now you need to shop the WWW auctions for an old, El Paso Weaver K6 with fine crosshairs and you'll be set.

You are going to love the .222!
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:36 PM
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I had a look at a 722 in .222 and just couldn't swing the cash to get it. One of those I wish things had been different. I do keep looking. Very nice catch!
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:04 PM
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I saw some Remington 50gr premium ammo today in a local shop and Winchester still catalogues 2 choices.
I'm looking for a scope to replace the old Bushnell before I do any serious shooting with it.
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:24 AM
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Well, I finally was able to dig up the box of bullets I bought 3 years ago for a case of Miller Lite!
It has all .22 and 7MM(.284) bullets in there from Hornady, Sierra, Nosler , Speer, etc.
Guy I worked with at Gander no longer needed them and was cleaning house. I asked him how much and he said I don't know, how about a case of beer? Ten minutes and $13 bucks or so later I had about 14 boxes of good bullets to work with.
So here's what I have. Let me know which of these would be suitable for the little triple duece. The rest I can use for my heavy-barrel .223 Rem VS.

Sierra 45gr Spitzer
Sierra 40gr HP
Hornady 35gr V-Max
Hornady 40gr V-Max
Hornady 45gr Hornet
Hornady 70gr Spire Point (.227)
Nosler 60gr Partitions.

I'm thinking the last 2 are going to be the .223 fodder?? What's with the .227 diameter?
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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I wasn't overly impressed with the 40 grain V-Max. It was OK close in, but lacked the dead right now effect of the old 50 grain SX at 200 yards. The .227" bullets are for the old .22 Savage High Power. I can't recommend them for a .224" barrel.

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Old 06-10-2007, 05:43 PM
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I wasn't overly impressed with the 40 grain V-Max. It was OK close in, but lacked the dead right now effect of the old 50 grain SX at 200 yards. The .227" bullets are for the old .22 Savage High Power. I can't recommend them for a .224" barrel.

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Thanks Jack!
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:34 AM
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I'd never give up my triple duce. It's in a 788 but still shoots better than I can hold it with 40 grain Vmax bullets.

RJ
Remington 788s are tack drivers with an ultra fast lock time. My first rifle was a .788 (in 6mm Rem) and it shot super good. 1/2 moa with almost any load I ran through it. I would still have it were it not for the burgular that got all my guns one summer afternoon while I was at work.
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:08 PM
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4198 is still excellent in the 222. My SPS 700 with the sporter weight barrel will shoot any 50 gr sp under 1/2" with 20.5 gr IMR 4198. This rifle puts a big smile on my face every time I shoot it.
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:41 PM
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In a couple more months I get to move into a new house and then the reloading of .222, .257 Bob and .280 Rem will commence!
I'm not going to bother setting up the press until then.
Thanks for the advice so far!
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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Here's my first 3-shot group with Remington factory ammo.
Keep in mind this has a crappy Bushnell scope on it and I was not taking my time.
Not too shabby (1.25" or so).
Looking to do some work to it later in the summer to shrink that group size in half!
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You have embarked on a combination that you will likely never forget. I have two .222's, one is a 722 and the other is a 700V. These are my favorite rifles ever. I shoot the 700V more than the 722. Both shoot exceptionally well. I think if I could hold it better I could come close to one hole 5 shot groups. 4 shot groups are easier. I paid $500 for the 700V used in excellent condition. It sounds like a lot, but as you know it is not currently produced. I got very lucky because it shoots like a dream. If you are not set up yet to hand load, get yourself a couple boxes of Hornady 50 gr V-Max cartridges. They are the best I found and I shot them all. When you have the time to hand load try some Hornady 50 gr V-Max, 50 SPSX, 50 gr Sierra Blitzking, 52 gr Matchking, or 53 gr Matchking bullets. The latter are target bullets. I use Winchester brass and Remington 7 1/2 primers. I have had better luck with H322 than with either IMR4198 or H4198. I also have some N133 that I have not yet tried. Others have good luck with Accurate 2015 BR. Fully prep the brass by using a primer pocket uniforming tool, flash hole deburring, check the oal and then chamfer the neck. Load em up with one of these powders and you can just about shoot flies at 100 yards. Good luck, Peter.
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