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Old 06-23-2007, 09:16 PM
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Question ruger 44 mag deerstalker carbine


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I just bought a nearly new ruger 44 auto carbine from Dec. 1979. Can anyone suggest what the most accurate loads are for this gun? Also, are there any particular service problems with this gun?
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:43 PM
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Welcome to the forum Harry. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

Your carbine will take any commercial loads for the 44 mag pistol. I bought one of Ruger's original 44 auto carbines when they first came out and at that time several ammo companies made 44 mag ammo just for this little rifle. I don't know if that is true today or not.

I do know that out to a hundred yards the 44 mag out of a rifle was just plain deadly on deer. I don't know f you reload or if you plan on sticking to factory fodder, but reloading can really make those little rifle's shine.

I haven't used one of the new 44 carbines since they were introduced so I can't say if there are any problems with that gun, but I can say over the years I've owned a bunch of Ruger products and quality is usually just great.

Welcome again and good luck with that little rifle. Keep us posted how it does.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:19 AM
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I bought one new in 1982'ish. Tried some factory loads and it always shot so-so. Started loading for it and it shot GREAT!

Used the Hornady 265's and the 300 XTP's. Killed moose,bear,deer,and an occasional yote.

Would not suggest that you use the Blazer line or any of the lower powered loads. Also stay away from lead bullets.

I always loaded up to book max. Tried even hotter and it really battered the action so I dropped back.

For deer,I would not reccommend anything lighter than a 240. Especially hot loaded 180's. Too much expansion,not enough penetration.

I always kept my weapon clean,but hunt now with a guy that has one and he NEVER cleans it,even after a long trec thru the river swamps. His is deadly accurate and always goes bang.

Disassembly for deep cleaning is a piece of cake. Nothing quirky there.

I never could see the sights so I put on a base and a open red dot. My weapon would shoot <3" at 50 yds with any of my handloads.

Just remember that this is a 50-75 yd weapon. Some people will try to make this a 7 mag.------pruhdlr
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:46 AM
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I just bought a nearly new ruger 44 auto carbine from Dec. 1979. Can anyone suggest what the most accurate loads are for this gun? Also, are there any particular service problems with this gun?
I don't know about the most accurate load, but I have used Rem 240gr SJHP since early "70s on a few deer and many feral hogs. It does a great job! A friend of mine had one of those Ruger .44 while I used a Marlin .44 lever action. I never saw him have any problems with the Ruger. Never saw him clean it(I'm sure he did, but not often). They stayed on our gun racks in the trucks. Used the same same load in Ruger Super Blackhawk and Smith/Wesson pistols. Average distance with pistol was 0 to 10 feet. Shot some deer with rifle 50/75yds. You could easily make 100yd shot, just compensate for drop. I think the Ruger .44 auto is a good rifle, good luck with it.
I agree with pruhdlr, don't care much for all lead bullets.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:36 AM
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Just what I was looking for! I have one of the newer deerfield carbines and wanted to load some of the 250 gr WFNGC's but was unsure if they would cause any/excessive fouling. Has anyone loaded hard cast GC bullets for this gas operated carbine? If so, what were the results?
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:07 AM
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Not really advisable to load cast bullets in gas operated firearms. Plugging the gas port is a possibility.

The Deerstalker carbine I used to own had a preferred taste for the 240 - 260 grain jacketed flat points with a hefty load to function properly. The deer and hogs at <100 yds always scummed quickly.
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:19 AM
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44mag deerstalker carbine

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Welcome to the forum Harry. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

Your carbine will take any commercial loads for the 44 mag pistol. I bought one of Ruger's original 44 auto carbines when they first came out and at that time several ammo companies made 44 mag ammo just for this little rifle. I don't know if that is true today or not.

I do know that out to a hundred yards the 44 mag out of a rifle was just plain deadly on deer. I don't know f you reload or if you plan on sticking to factory fodder, but reloading can really make those little rifle's shine.

I haven't used one of the new 44 carbines since they were introduced so I can't say if there are any problems with that gun, but I can say over the years I've owned a bunch of Ruger products and quality is usually just great.

Welcome again and good luck with that little rifle. Keep us posted how it does.
Hi Bob. Thanks for your reply! I do reload for the 44, so if you have any suggestions let me know. I am going to try a 12 grain charge of Winchester 231 under a hornady 200 gr. XTP bullet. I have a feeling though that the 240 gr. bullet might be more accurate.
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:24 AM
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That was my exactly my concern. I just didn't know how much a gas check would reduce the fouling problem. I still haven't decided if I should try them, but I would not be shooting them in large quantities. They would be used only for punching holes through hogs on an occasional basis.
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:27 AM
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Not trying to hijack your thread Harry, looks like we are both looking for good loads for the same carbine! I really enjoy mine, it's a fun little gun to lug around in the woods!
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Not trying to hijack your thread Harry, looks like we are both looking for good loads for the same carbine! I really enjoy mine, it's a fun little gun to lug around in the woods!


Gas checks will not keep bullet lube out of the gas ports of a gas operrated semi auto.Best stick to jacket NON lubed bullets to avoid a nightmare in cleaning the ports and a failure to function........
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I've had two of them. The one I have now I've killed two deer with. I used the 180 gr XTP on both with perfect satisfaction. This year I'm loading the Hornady 265 gr flatnose over 22 gr H-110. I'm going to try hog hunting and want more penetration. I don't think you would have a problem shooting out to 100-125 yds. The deer I shot last year was about 100 yds out, not a big deer, got complete penetration. I do think the 180's are a little light, but on smaller game like coyotes or woodchucks they shoot pretty flat and hit really hard.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:03 PM
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The Winchester USA 240 Grain loads have been very accurate in mine.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:31 AM
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I have a question?
Is there ever been an episode were the extra ammo in the tube discharged from recoil ?
Kind of like the lever action rifles all stacked together with there noses on each others primmer.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:13 AM
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With the flat and round nosed bullets used for the 44 Mag, there is no chance of such tubular detonation.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:22 PM
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I had one of the older "tube" Deerslayers years ago. Do NOT use "lead" bullets or "Full Metal Jacket" bullets if you value your rifle. The one I had was "mediocre" in the accuracy department (3" or so at 100 yards), but it was a "quick" handling carbine, the deer went down quick, and I never recovered any of the 240gr Reming bullets I used. I loaded with Win296 and H110 exclusively (now days the same powder). I'd still have mine if I didn't get tired of chasing brass.
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240 to 270gr bullets suit the Ruger best overall along with either 2400 or H110/296. Mine never liked fast powders, lighter bullets or reduced loads. No cast or swaged bullets, period. For me, evenly trimmed cases and careful bullet crimps offered surprising group reductions.
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If you have a tublar fed Ruger it is an original carbine made until late seventies or early eighties. The Deerstalker is recent manufacture and uses a four round rotary magazine. As kdub says not much chance of tubular detonation--in either carbine.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:08 PM
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If you have a tubular fed Ruger it is an original carbine made until late seventies or early eighties. The Deerstalker is recent manufacture and uses a four round rotary magazine. As kdub says not much chance of tubular detonation--in either carbine.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:51 PM
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Ruger .44 Carbine

I bought one with a scope off the used gun rack for not very much money. It absolutely did not like Unique powder and 240 grain jacketed bullets. When I switched to IMR4227 powder, the groups were amazing. All the best...
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Those rifles are just horrible. Just send yours over here!
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