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Old 01-04-2008, 01:17 PM
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Does anyone have any info on the new .30 TC cartridge by thompson center. I just saw it on there website.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:31 PM
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There's ballistic data on the Hornady site. It looks close to the .30-06.
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I've heard absolutely nothing about it since it was first announced. I don't think I'd buy one unless and until it suddenly becomes hot stuff - or it'll silently go away.

There's nothing wrong with it at all; it just has way too much competition from proven rounds that cover it from both directions.
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Thanks guys, almost looks like a .308 to me
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The .30 TC uses Hornady's Light Mag technology to achieve - get this - ballistics identical to Hornady's .308 Win Light Mag offerings.

Which means the only reason to get a .30 TC instead of the same Icon rifle offered in .308 Win, is for the novelty of it.

Otherwise, the .308 will give you much greater flexability as far as factory ammo is concerned. You can get .308 Win ammo in dozens of different loadings in Africa, down-under, in Europe, Alaska, you name it. You can get .30 TC ammo in a couple of loadings in.......??? well on the internet......and I guess at a handful of shooting stores if your lucky. Same for brass and dies.

As for equalling a .30-06, that's marketing. Try loading both with max loads and 180, 200 or 220 grain slugs and run them through a chrono. Or compare the .30 TC to Hornady's .30-06 Light Mag offerings (an apple to apple comparison). .30 TC 165 gr = 2850 fps. .30-06 Light Mag 165 gr = 3015 fps.

In their "equals or surpasses" marketing pitch, they don't mention that the .30 TC uses Hornady's Light Mag powder formualtions, which is also available to modern bolt action .30-06 users.

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Old 01-04-2008, 04:30 PM
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Why 30 TC?

If T/C wanted a cartridge with their name on it, they picked the wrong bullet diameter: 308". With the availability of a 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, 300 Winchester/Weatherby/WSM/30-378/Ruger Compact Magnum (I think I named all of them unless the 300 H&H currently is available somewhere), why would any of us buy a rifle chambered in 30 T/C?

It's strong suit is that it achives 30-06 velocity out of a medium length (308 length) action; 3000 fps with a 150 grain bullet / 24" barrel. Well heck, any of us can handload a 308 Winchester and get it to sling a 150 grain boat tail bullet out of a 24" barrel and not excede the SAAMI max pressure of 62,000 PSI (not CUP). Hornady's Light Magnum ammo in .308 Winchester is advertised at the same 3000 fps with a 150 grain bullet. So why buy a 30 T/C? I don't know.

Now the T/C Icon rifle the 30 T/C cartridge was designed for, along with .308, .243 and 22-250, is a horse of a different color. It's a fine looking rifle and was designed starting with a clean sheet of paper and is unlike any other rifle on the market. T/C also guarantees 1" MOA or better accuracy out-of-the box. Nice wood, too.

I like the rifle and would consider owning one if T/C starts chambering it in the rest of the "308 Family", like the 260 Remington, 7MM-08 Remington, 338 Federal and 358 Winchester. Two would be nice; one in 260 and one in 338. Then again, what CAN'T be accomplished with a .308 Winchester that can be with one of the other 308 family chamberings?
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That about sums it up: If you want a bit less, get a 300 Savage; if you want the same, get a 308; if you want a bit more, get a 30-06; if you want lots more, get anything in .30-caliber with "magnum" attached to it.

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Ever since I read about this new cartridge I've been wondering why? I can understand Marlin's new one to give 308 performance in a lever gun, but TC's seems more like something created by the advertising department sans any hunters.
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Ever since I read about this new cartridge I've been wondering why? I can understand Marlin's new one to give 308 performance in a lever gun, but TC's seems more like something created by the advertising department sans any hunters.
Yes, and then to chamber the same rifle in .308 made not sense at all. They should have went 7-08, .243, .22-250 and left the .30TC as the only 30 cal option if they really wanted it to have a chance of getting off the ground.
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I can get a 180gr bullet out of my 308 at 2693 fps. I don't think I would have any use for a 30 tc. Get a 300 wm or 300wsm and you will do as good or better.
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The 300 wm and 300wsm are both a lot more cartridge than the .30 T/C, .308, or the .30-06.
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30 TC Accuracy Problems-Dirty Gun Powder

I purchased a 30 TC four years ago and have been able to choot four deer with it soe far. I cannot get this gun to shoot groups without cleaning the gun after each shot. For instance I shot 15 shots through my pro hunter before PA bear season and the group if is was a group was

Now there is not way that this gun should shoot this way. The more dirty the gun get the worse it shoot. Does anyone have any ideas? could this be an issue with the barrel? Could this be the Hornedy powder? i am lost for words. Again if I clean the gun after every shot i can get it to shoot 2" groups at 100 yards.

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I purchased a 30 TC four years ago and have been able to choot four deer with it soe far. I cannot get this gun to shoot groups without cleaning the gun after each shot. For instance I shot 15 shots through my pro hunter before PA bear season and the group if is was a group was

Now there is not way that this gun should shoot this way. The more dirty the gun get the worse it shoot. Does anyone have any ideas? could this be an issue with the barrel? Could this be the Hornedy powder? i am lost for words. Again if I clean the gun after every shot i can get it to shoot 2" groups at 100 yards.
Try lapping your barrel.
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Im sorry but i dont know what you mean. "Try lapping your barrel". Could you explain. I have talked to TC and they said to send the barrel back into them after gun season. I can cut bullets with my bolt and lever action rifles. I have never seen a gun shoot this bad. If I clean it after every shot it shoots well. After each shot it takes five patches to clean the gun. The first patch is black. I have never seen this much powder in a gun after shooting it one time.
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Ok so I did some research about lapping and not sure if I should do this to a new rifle. I have shot five boxes of bullets through it and should not have this problem. I will send it back to TC after gun season or just deal with it and clean it in the field after each shot. I truly think there is something wrong with the rifle barrel. I spent way too much money on it to have gthis many problems. I do want to buy a 209 X .50 for this gun and maybe i will just sell the .30 TC barrel. I cant get any other ammo for this gun since Hornady is the only manufaturer that make bullet for it.
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Jeff,

That is unacceptable accuracy, or lack thereof, from your T/C barrel. Send it back and see what they can do to make it right. Also, a gun that will shoot 2" groups at 100 yards, but only if you clean it after every shot, is still not accurate.
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Send the barrel back and get them to replace it with a .308 or 7mm-08.
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Thanks guys for your feedback. I just cannot belive you spend this much money and have this bad of luck. I should take a picture after I shoot one bullet through it and show yhou the patch cloth with a little bore cleaner after running it through the gun. It takes five patches to clean down to a minimal acceptable dirty patch cloth.....

I will send it back but it is suck an inconvenience! I dont think I will buy another rifle barrel from T/C. I would however like to have the 209 X 50 cal. From what I have read they are the most accurate of the current muzzleloaders on the market. Would any of you agree?????

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Thanks guys for your feedback. I just cannot belive you spend this much money and have this bad of luck. I should take a picture after I shoot one bullet through it and show yhou the patch cloth with a little bore cleaner after running it through the gun. It takes five patches to clean down to a minimal acceptable dirty patch cloth.....

I will send it back but it is suck an inconvenience! I dont think I will buy another rifle barrel from T/C. I would however like to have the 209 X 50 cal. From what I have read they are the most accurate of the current muzzleloaders on the market. Would any of you agree?????
Well I'm not sure about the whole market, but I have an Encore 209x50 barrel. It is a little finicky, but it shoots lights out with 250 gr Hornady SSTs and 105 to 120 gr Pyrodex. I have never pushed it up to 150 grains Pyrodex simply because they foul so quickly, and, you don't gain that much. It shoots centerfire quality groups if I do my part.
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Jeff,

You've got my curiosity up, now. What cartridge is the current barrel, the one that gets so dirty, chambered in? Is it an Encore barrel chambered for the 30 TC cartridge?
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