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View Poll Results: Which is the most accurate long range .338?
.338 Remington Ultra Mag 2 10.53%
.338-.378 Weatherby Mag 2 10.53%
.338 Lapua 5 26.32%
.338 Winchester Mag 10 52.63%
.338 Federal 0 0%
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:43 PM
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What is the best .338 cal available?


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I am looking to purchase a 338 caliber rifle. I would like to use it as a long range elk gun to launch 250 grain bullets. Based on published data I have found that the Weatherby 338-378 has the best velocities. But, I have read mixed reports on how accurate they are. However, I have no practical experience with this caliber and would like some input from people who do! Thanks.

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Old 04-04-2008, 04:47 AM
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I think the question would be, not which cartridge but what rifle you need/like, then see if any of the 338 cartridges match. IMHO I would love to have a Kimber Montana in 338Federal, short non-fat action and very light, plus it would no doubt be accurate enough and the recoil level should not be too bad. Then theres the 338-06 which IMHO is a great cartridge, the problem lies in there are very few rifles out there chambered for it and when you do find one it normaly runs a tad high dollar wise, I would love to have a Weatherby Ultra in 338-06. Some Savage 110 series of rifles can be made into a 338-06 very cheaply, It has always been a thought in the back of my mind. On the other hand a 338Win Mag will be heavier or should be heavier considering the recoil, the plus to a 338Win Mag is almost everyone makes a 338Win Mag. Then theres the 340Weatherby, not too many people make a rifle to fire this monster, it is a proven cartridge if you can handle the recoil.

Two perfect 338 caliber rifles to me would be Remingtons Mountain rifle in 338-06 or the short action mountain rifle in either a 338fed or a 338/350RemMag. I do like the Remington mountain rifles form, fit and function.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:04 AM
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If I were to buy a .338 Magnum rifle today; I would select the Ruger M-77 MKII with Leupold 3-9 power scope.
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What is the best car? Impossible to say without knowing what you'll be using the rifle for...
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:29 AM
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and what its replacing.
if you have a 30-06, 308, 300mag or something along those lines, the only practical reason to replace it with a 338 is to launch heavy bullets (250gr) at good velocities. that works out to be one of the magnums.
over the counter rifle 338 win mag. custom maybe 330 dakota.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:45 AM
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Today 338's come from mild to wild. Best would be better served if we knew best for what type of game and ranges you want to shoot. Like some of the other posters pointed out there are lots of 34 bores to shoot today.

As far as energy and velocity goes one of the best I've seen is Remington's 338 ultra-mag. I've been shooting Remingtons 8mm mag for lots of years for elk and If I didn't have that a 338 Ultra-mag would be my choice for elk today. It would also do a pretty good job on deer to.
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The 338 Federal is bound to be successful because it offers plenty of punch in a lighter, shorter barrel rifle, that doesn't have retina detaching recoil. It is effectively equal to 338-06, and certaily capable of taking an elk or moose. That being said, for the hand loader, the 358 Winchester, or the 35 Whelen would also serve well.
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Wow, what a tough question! I like em all. I guess what really qualifies the question is what are you gonna use it for? It's important to me how heavy and long the rifle is for what I'm gonna be doing. If I'm planning on crawling and thrashing through high brush anticipating a close shot, I'd tend to favor something like a light, short .338 Federal or .338 RCM. If it's shooting at big stuff at distance, and I don't have to lug the gun around very much, then it's time to get out the custom .338 Lapua. The .338-06 seems to offer a very well ballanced combination of recoil and ballistics out of common sized rifles. Fair amount of evidence this round out performs .35 Whelen, so I plan to build one up and learn for myself.
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DLB,
You've defined your use as for NM elk; generally sparsely timbered open country, I think. The 338 caliber is a good choice for this use. Define "long range" for us. If you have experience with medium recoiling rifles and can place shots consistently in a 6" or 8" circle on the sweet spot behind the shoulder at 300 yards, the 338-06 is a fine choice. So is the 338 Win Mag.

If 250 yards is your comfortable range, the 338 federal, and 350 Rem Mag would be good choices; the 30-06 would be a good choice too, with 180 gr bullets. If you're looking at 400 yards or so, the 338 Win Mag and 340 Wby mag are good choices. Beyond 400 yards - if you're willing to practice to take advantage of the range capabilities - the 338-378 Wby, 338 RUM, 338 Lapua would do you well, with recoil penalties!
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:17 PM
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I think of the 338 Winchester Magnum as a bigger 30-06, they gave similar trajectory. My belief is one can do well enough with the 30-06 and if you need more range and shoot it well, a 300 Winchester Magnum. Back when the big bore fellas were working up the 333 and 338 the bullets were not what we have today and now we have better powders. The 338 WIN Mag is a fine caliber for those who regularly hurt in Elk country where there are big bears. I dropped down to a 300 some years back, but I still have a 35 Whelen
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i love my 338/06AI, comfortable to shoot, easy to work up accurate loads and it comes darn close to the win mag's velocities. just the same, the thought of a 250gr bullet at around 3000fps is impressive.
i think that probably the most bang for the buck is gonna be found in the remington ultra mag, reasonably priced rifles and ammo make it real attractive to me. the weatherby would be an excellent choice too a bit more $ but nothing like the laupua. the 338 federal doesn't have the bullet weight or velocity to cut it as a long range round. great 300yd rifle but not a long range round as the ballistics just aren't there.
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It depends

My preference is for a .338-06. I had two of them built on Springfield and U.S. Enfield actions. All the best...
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I am looking to purchase a 338 caliber rifle. I would like to use it as a long range elk gun to launch 250 grain bullets. Based on published data I have found that the Weatherby 338-378 has the best velocities. But, I have read mixed reports on how accurate they are. However, I have no practical experience with this caliber and would like some input from people who do! Thanks.


Define long range, what distance do you consider as long range? no one can give proper advise unless they know the range that you are considering...
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Theoretically, any rifle is only as accurate as the quality of parts/workmanship of the gun and the skill of the person holding it (we'll assume load development as a given for any caliber choice). That being said.........the 3 most obvious choices for a long-range .338" gun would be the .340 Wby, the .338 RUM and the .338/.378 Wby. For the sake of choosing the one with the most possible, theoretical inherent accuracy I'd have to go with the non-belted .338 RUM. That's all based on cogitative surmission. Real life results may vary.

Wife's uncle has a 700 Stainless in .338 RUM in an H.S. Precision stock. It will go 3 shots into 1 1/2" or so at 300 yards. That's a fact.
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Also add the 338 Laupa to your list...
30" ABS Carbon Wrapped barrel (Rock Creek) Sendaro stock, Rem- 700 action and Nightforce 5.5X22X50 Scope 11.6 pounds total ready to go... and it shoots about .8" at 300 yards with 325 grain rebated boatails by Wildcat Bullets


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.338 Win Mag.

How much power do you really need? The .338 Win Mag will kill anything you point it at. Fast, flat, accurate, and lots of energy. Anything bigger is just painful. Unless you are going for long range specialty stuff like 1000 yard bench shooting or something. My next choice would be the RUM, it will handle the 250+gr better for sure, but if you're throwing that much lead why not go with a .375?
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:37 PM
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Thanks for all the advise everyone. Just to clarify on "long range" I am talking around 500+ yards. I do not anticipate taking that long of shots, but, I have definitely seen the opportunity to do so. If I miss a shot at any range or fail to drop an animal that I wound, I want to know it is operator error and not the rifle. Thanks again for any advice offered.
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:23 AM
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well said nwt338
500 yds plus?
i don't consider looking at elk through my eight power bino's an opportunity but then i don't watch that much tv.
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Old 02-27-2010, 03:28 PM
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at 500 yards a 338/378 weatherby is still delivering over a ton of energy with a 250 grain bullet. mine will kill anything anywhere with the proper bullet and range, that said, if you have no experience with the 338 caliber, possibly a kinder gentler one would be more in line. Not to mention alot less money a box of 338/378 in my neck of the woods cost over 100 yankee dollars. In my oponion a model 70 classic in 338 win. mag will do anything you need .
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