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Old 02-21-2009, 06:46 AM
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Well, I've narrowed my rifle choice down to two: Ruger Hawkeye or the #1. I have handled and dry-fired both as much as I can, and the Number 1 is winning out at this moment.

Now, I've narrowed down my scope choice to two Leupold VX-1's: a 3-9x40 or a 4-12x40. My questions are:

- the 4-12x40 has "friction" adjustments as opposed to the "click" adjustments on the 3-9x40. How will I be able to tell how far up or down or to one side I'm adjusting the scope if I can't hear and feel the clicks?
- Do you guys think the 4-12 power is too much for the 25-06 or is it ok?

Thanks for any help.
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:52 AM
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You didn't say what you intend to use it for. For general hunting the 3x9 is more than enough. If you are doing long range varminting or parer punching the 4x12 might give you an edge.
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:56 AM
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I like the 3 by 9 better simply for the field of view on low power. As far as friction adjustments the dial is marked in steps, but I sure prefer click adjustments. Unless your using clicks to adjust for range it really doesn't matter. Most of my big game guns are sighted in 3 inches high at a hundred for maximum effective range (point blank range) and I don't move the scope adjustments on them.

Many guys that shoot long range use the elevation adjustments and adjust up a number of clicks for each range. The non-click adjustments won't work for that type of use.
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:05 AM
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Ahhh....I see. THe dial is marked (why didn;t I realize that?) so you can still tell how much you're adjusting, you just have to "look" at the dial as opposed to being able to "listen". I see now.

I'll be using it for hunting. Probably varminting, coyotes, antelope, and maybe javelina.

Bob, according to Leupolds specs, the 4-12 allows 32.3' and 14' FOV and the 3-9 allows 32.9' and 13.1' FOV. Is there that much of a difference? Convince me if you can, please, because I initially thought the 3-9x40 was plenty too and it costs much less. Oh, I want to get the LRD reticle too.
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:51 PM
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Now, I've narrowed down my scope choice to two Leupold VX-1's: a 3-9x40 or a 4-12x40. My questions are:

- the 4-12x40 has "friction" adjustments as opposed to the "click" adjustments on the 3-9x40. How will I be able to tell how far up or down or to one side I'm adjusting the scope if I can't hear and feel the clicks?
- Do you guys think the 4-12 power is too much for the 25-06 or is it ok?

Thanks for any help.
the VX-1 series do not have click adjustments. so both the 3-9 and the 4-14 have the same micro friction adjustments.
from the leupold web site:

VX-I
  • The VX-I also utilizes a combination of Vari-X III and Vari-X II technology, utilizing ¼-MOA friction (non-clicking) adjustments. The external lenses are multicoated and the internal lenses use magnesium fluoride
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-s.../#questionFive
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:38 AM
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You didn't say what you intend to use it for. For general hunting the 3x9 is more than enough. If you are doing long range varminting or parer punching the 4x12 might give you an edge.
I think this sums it up pretty well.
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I would stick to the 3-9. I had a VX II in 3-9 on my 7mm rem mag, and found that it was plenty enough. The areas in which I hunt have a mixture of long range and short range opportunities, and I found that the lower power is more versatile. The Hawkeye is a lighter rifle too and you may find the rifle doesnt balance nicely with the heavier scope.
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Well, I've narrowed my rifle choice down to two: Ruger Hawkeye or the #1. I have handled and dry-fired both as much as I can, and the Number 1 is winning out at this moment.

Now, I've narrowed down my scope choice to two Leupold VX-1's: a 3-9x40 or a 4-12x40. My questions are:

- the 4-12x40 has "friction" adjustments as opposed to the "click" adjustments on the 3-9x40. How will I be able to tell how far up or down or to one side I'm adjusting the scope if I can't hear and feel the clicks?
- Do you guys think the 4-12 power is too much for the 25-06 or is it ok?

Thanks for any help.

Well I really like my Ruger #1 and it is a classic and mine was in 300Wby. If you get one you will like it. Now that said I think the new Hawkeye would be a better choice, more versatile and actually a better handling rifle unless you get the international stock on the number one but it does not have the cartridge chambering you would want. I know you will like either one but would encourage you to really consider the the Hawkeye. Best purchase I have made in a long time. Great fit and finish, great trigger, great scope system, great feel and handling and it is accurate without any work on the stock or rifle. Good luck, enjoy your choice and good shooting and hunting with the rifle.

I would choose a good 3-9x40mm VX-III and it will do for most anything for general hunting.

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Old 02-24-2009, 05:39 PM
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I appreciate all your advice. I think I'm going with the VX-1 3-9x40. I would love to have a VX-III, but the cost is prohibitive at this time. I cannot justify the expense for a rifle that will see general range and hunting use, but my eye is drawn toward them, that's for sure!

Thanks Beartracker for the nudge toward the Hawkeye. It's an agonizing choice, trust me (I'm sure you do). I think it's one of those cases where my heart is set on the #1 and I've been seeking reasons NOT to get it and to buy the Hawkeye instead. I can;t find a good enough reason to overrule the #1.

- I'm pretty confident that, with practice, I can reload the #1 almost as fast as a bolt action...at least, I think I could learn to load it fast enough to count, If and When I need that second or third shot.

- Accuracy was truly my main concern. I've read some concerns about the way the forearm is mounted to the receiver, and about the grouping not always being what a bolt action rifle can do.

- I work relatively close to Skeeter Skelton's son Bart and took the chance last Friday to ask him about the #1. I received nothing but praise for both of the Ruger rifles under consideration. In his opinion, I would suffer negligible accuracy loss with the #1, if any at all (with a little luck in getting just that right barrel on the one I get).

- I know I'll own of each in the not-to-distant future. So....my reasoning is, with the way things are going, if any rifle's production were discontinued, it would be the #1. I want to own one now Just In Case that malady would transpire. Already Sportsman's Warehouse cannot order any more #1s. They say the rifle is being "discontinued". In talking with them, I said the rifle is still in their current catalog, and that "discontinued" to them might mean the firm is not ordering any more because they're not big sellers. I think they agree with that, but still there's the nagging thought that it could just happen.....it could fall from the line....maybe.

- ALready I'm thinking, after the 25-06, my next rifle would most likely be a 22-250. I don;t think I'd like that round in the #1, but I know I would in a Hawkeye. That rifle will eventually be handled and shot by my daughter in a couple of three short years, as a step-up for her from her Marlin Glenfield .22.

So....with a few more reasons not mentioned, those are the basic mechanics as to how I've arrived, still tentatively on the decision to buy the #1 in 25-06. It's not final, but I'm trying to put together a scope package so that, whicever rifle I get, I'll have a scope to put on it right away.

And that, my mentors, is how I arrived at this thread......... ((( )))
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:58 PM
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Burris full field 3 x9

I have owned a couple of Leo's in 2 x 7 and 3 x9. They are great scopes and I like the warranty.

I bought a Burris 3 x 9 Full field w/a ballistic plex and it is a wonderful value at $ 199. It is a very bright scope and with the limited use seems to hold zero just fine. At the end of (legal) shooting light on an open field it turned the field into day.

The only thing I'm not crazy about (the Burris) is the whole eye piece swivels when you adjust the power. If you like Flip mount caps, they don't work very well when you have to change the power setting.

If I needed another 3 x9 and was concerned about price, I'd get the Burris.

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Old 02-24-2009, 08:32 PM
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Gyro, are you saying that the Leupold eyepiece swivels when you adjust power? Or that the Burris eyepiece swivels?
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Sorry I was not clear. The Burris eye piece swivels.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:17 AM
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That Vari-x I 3-9x40 is a really good scope. It is also a great value at the retail price. I have been using one on my .243 (my main deer rifle) for about 25 years now without a problem. It is not as bright as my Zeiss 10x40 binocs, but it is significantly brighter than my bushnell 10x40's.
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Hi, I have 4 bushnell elites and like them very much I also had a 35 year old gold ring that I had to send back as it made funny noises when I took it off my 308 BLR.
This past Sept. I sent it to Leupold and less than a week later new vari-x-l was at my door. That is what I call customer service. I will never buy anything else from now on.
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