how good is a 300 win mag for long range target shooting. and if it's not a good cal. which is the best.

thanks Rod

300 Win Mag is the Army's long range choice. .308 Cal bullets offer excellent Ballistic Coefficients and excellent choice and the Win Mag case is big enough to hold lots of powder for plenty of velocity.

Now, it will beat you up if you sit and shoot 50 or more shots. My choice for long range target work is my 6.5 Creedmoor, it offers substantially lower recoil and less powder burned for the same or better velocity and higher BC.

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how hard is it to find brass and ammo for the 6.5 creedmoore I already have a 300 and plenty of components. Please tell me more about the 6.5

thanks Rod

just me, but i would go with a .308 win for long range target shooting, it has poor trajectory compared to a .300 but trajectory will be a factor with either of them long range, so id go with what doesnt kick to hard but still bucks wind, and very accurate.

Hornady makes the 6.5 Creedmoor brass or it can be made from 308/243/260 brass by sizing, trimming, and fireforming.

6.5s and 6mms rule the long range competitions right now, I don't see them giving up their strong hold. The .308 Winchester and .300 Win Mag do pretty well, but the recoil is a huge factor, not just in barrel life but in shooter consistency.

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Ok without spending a fortune in new rifles, Ihave a good 243 3006 300 win mag. which of is the best for 1000 yard shooting. Ihave been shooting and reloading for a long time, but for hunting the last 20 vears I'd only shoot 4 or five rounds a year. the last year I have just went to the range to shoot. and enjoy it and looking to take it to the next level. I have a 300 yard range with in 5 miles and a 1000 yard range about 90 miles away. I have been working with the 243 most. what does it take to go from 300 yards to 1000 yards

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A lot... even though I shoot to 600 yards with an iron sighted semi automatic M1 Garand, 1000 yards is very difficult without expensive equipment and custom gun work. All of your calibers can easily shoot 1000 yards. I would probably stick with the 243.

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thanks for your advice, I just ordered some 105 nosler target bullets it seems the coefficent of a bullet is very important. I will work the 243 first and maybe try the 300 and if things go well I may work on a well built gun.


Thanks again Rod

Don't reckon I care what caliber you shoot but the 105 could be a tad heavy for a standard twist .243 to stabilize. I like the .300 Win Mag myself.
A few helpful hints. Do you have enough elevation in your scope? Get large targets, I use 4 x 8 plywood for backers. A spotter is worth their weight in gold. Wind flags come in handy and can be made cheap, stiff wire pushed into the ground with a kleenex taped to it will work. A good chrono helps. A portable loading setup will cut years off load development and cut out many pulled bullets. Don't buy a bunch of any one thing. Buy several types in small quantities and only replace what looks promising. Shooting a 10 foot group at a 1000 yards is easy, shooting a 10 inch group takes a little work.

There is a lot of optional equipment that you will find will help you. A little bit of work at 100 yards can really help you out at 1000. I personally throw away any load not producing sub .5" groups at 100 yards if I intend to shoot past 400 yards. This may not work well with you, I have one rifle that shoots 2" groups at 100 yards, 200 yards, and 300 yards, albeit with appropriate drop for the given yardage.

I can't really count (or refuse to admit) the cost of all the stuff I have purchased in the pursuit of tiny groups...

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The .300 Win Mag can make a great long range caliber. But then again, those belts sure make them inaccurate, or so they say.

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They who? Maybe "they" just can't shoot worth a hoot.

I was just making a funny. My belted mags shoot wonderfully.

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I new you were causing trouble....same as me

You could simply get a small taste of long range shooting to see what you really need and whether you really want to pursue it further.

First I would choose the 300 Win Mag. I would get some Sierra 168 grain Matchking or Berger VLD bullets and use the most accurate load in the manual as a starting point. Load 5 of each small change, such as OAL, until you are touching the lands. Don't even bother with 100 yard groups, start at 200. You will see what your rifle is capable of as you go through the task of finding that accurate load. You may discover your current rifle is not going to be doing any 1000 yard work with its current barrel or trigger/mounts/sights. You may only get 800 yards out of the rifle as is before you cannot adjust the sights anymore. Like Mattsbox 99 said, it can get expensive right away.

It would be fun if nothing else and atleast you can still use the bullets.

A lot of long range shooters use scope bases that raise the back of the scope up. 10,20 or 30 MOA bases.


I'm getting ready to order some 168gr Matchkings for my .300. I want to build it into my "tacti-cool" sniper rifle, just for fun ofcourse.

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Might take a hint from the MK 248 MOD 1. The 220gr SMK has a BC of .629 (same as the 210gr) in case your interested. I like the heavier bullets.

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