im upgrading from my 270 to a little more power. i will be taking up to 500 yd shots on whitetail and hunting big hog with it. which would u recommend. what about the recoil on the two also.
im looking at the thompson icon and ruger m77 hawkeye in both calibers. which is better?

I was always of the opinion that if a feller's gonna burn that much powder and make that much noise he should get a .300 Mag and have something to show for it.

The 7mm Rem is not a very big step up from your .270. May as well get some "bang for your buck".

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The 300 Win Mag is an excellent caliber as the 7MM Mag. I have both are depending on the bullet you chose to shoot both have long range bullet tradjectories. The 300 Win mag has much more recoil then the 7mm mag and would be felt more in a light rifle. The 300 Win mag has an edge at long distance but the 7mmMag is also a flat shooting rifle.

My Son Glenn's one shot Elk kill in September with my Sako 7mm Mag at 297 yards with a 160 grain Sierra 160 grain SP going 2915 FPS.

i agree the 300 win mag is more of a jump up from your 270. i have both and like both very much but i prefer the 300.

I have both. If I had to choose, Id go with the .300 Win Mag. Make no mistake, the 7mm Rem Mag is a champion in it's own right, and it is always better than the .270 Wimpchester. Better BC and SD for the .284 bullets. But for a similar amount of powder, the .300 WM is more efficient. Recoil is not that much different either.

For the .30, you can get bullets from 90 to 240 grains.

Are you a handloader ? Interested in a Ruger MkII with the boat paddle stock ?

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If you're upgrading from the .270 Winchester, why just move to cartridges that are only marginally better than the .270's 100 year old parent, the .30-06? If you just want a flatter trajectory move to something comparable to the 7mm or .300 Ultramags. Since 500 yard shots are not "point blank" even for these and precise range estimation and holdover will be needed even for these, why not go for something with more remaining potency at long range such as the .338 Ultramag or .340 Weatherby, both of which do better with the bigger 225 and 250 grain bullets. If I had to cull my big game rifles to only two, I would keep an ultralight .270 Winchester (with 130 grain bullets) and a .340 Weatherby (with 250 grain bullets) and be in good shape for everything in North America.

For a kill zone diameter of 8".

300 RUM, 210 Berger at 3100
Max PBR is 354 yards when sighted dead on at 300. Its 4" high at 150 though.

A .338 RUM 225gr Accubond at 3000
Max PBR is 339 yards sighted dead on at 287, 4" high at 150

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I too wanted to step up from a 270 and I decided on a 7mm Rem Mag. I considered the 300 win mag but the .284 bullet is plenty for a whitetail in my opinion. Iv shot 300 win mags and they do kick a little more than the 7mag but not a whole heck of a lot. Im pleased with my 7mag overall. I will admit though that It rarely gets taken out of the safe (its a Remington 700 BDL). I bought a 270 wsm and if Im hunting over a large field, thats what I carry. My 270 win serves as my woods/small field gun.

I've been using a 300 win mag for 5 years and I love it. I hunt in southeastern ok. So I don't need the 300 win mag for distance but I do need it for the knock down power it has. I've killed 5 bucks with it and all of them combined have probly taken 10 steps. I've also shot a 400 pound hog with it and dropped it dead in it's tracks. If you want more power 300 win mag is the best

Get the 30-06. Better for what you want to do than the other two.

I have a lot of different cals. and different rifles from the 340wby.---223, but I have (for the most part) hunted with the 300win.mag. for over 12 years . IMHO, I feel that the 300 win.mag. is the best all around choice for a hunter who wants to hunt with just one rifle/cal. for any/all large game animal in North America (a jack of all trades, if you will). You can reload a 90gr. bullet for smaller game and up to 240 gr. bullets for the large stuff. When you add the vast selection of bullets that are on the market for the 30 cals. it really shines.. Just my opinion

I'd probably pass on anything over 400 yards....I suppose.... but two friends of mine (not to include the testimony of many of these men in this forum) have the 300WM and they swear by it. I've fired the cartridge more than once - it does have a little kick to it and makes you want to swig some Wild Turkey and wipe your mouth with your sleeve. I also owned a 7mmMag many years ago. Pretty good little cartridge but if you're going to step up from the .270, you might as well take a full step. Then again, deer and hog don;t deserve a full-blown magnum 7mm or 30 caliber round, in my opinion. It's probably insulting to them, I think anyway.

You don;t say where you are, but where I live, the biggest animals would be elk, oryx, cougar, and black bear. All perfect targets for the 30-06.


Just noticed: This thread is 2-1/2 years old

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We up sized a Rem 700 270 to a 300RUM with a 28" barrel and it shoots like a dream

my vote is for the 338win mag much better than the 7mm or 300 now i just did a cat and necked a 7mm mag down to 270 but i don't hunt elk at 500yrds if i did it would be the 338 if you reload it is verry versatile with alot of pill offerings. if not the federal ammo with 210gr nosler partition will be very hard to beat for what you want. and felt recoil is less than the 300

Old thread but.... I have both and think that if you are looking for a jump then 300 is what they would need to do. Kick is only marginally more and for me more like a huge push on the shoulder than a punch. I think the wide range of ammo also makes it adaptable to a bigger range of uses.

+1. I'd also suggest the .300WSM (although I'm sure the OP already has his dream rifle by now ). I like what the SM brings to the table, many times in a shorter & lighter package than a typical rifle chambered in '06.

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I like the 7mm bullet. The 7 mag is flat shooting and lower recoild than the 300 mag. And withy a good bonded bullet will do everything a 300 mag will do on the game you are wanting to shoot. All you have to do is get through the hide and a rib to put it in the boiler room for a kill. Unleess your taking the scenic route and even then i would say wait for a better shot or get closer.

I have a Savage American Classic in 300 WSM and I love it. It was my choice as well. It is an awesome cartridge.

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