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Old 03-04-2010, 07:54 PM
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I'm looking at my first custom built rifle and have some questions that I thought many here could help with.

Let me start with what I know I want

1) Caliber - 6.5 Creedmoor

2) Barrel Length - Not less than 22" and not greater than 24"

3) Barrel Fluting - 6 groove

4) Rifling - 5R (or 5C)

5) Barrel Material - Stainless Steel

The set-up I'm looking for is a do-it-all rig. For long range hunting, long range target, a 900m rifle.

I haven't decided on which action yet.

What y'all could help me with is:

1) What barrel length would be best with the 6.5cm, 22" or 24" ?

2) What rifling twist rate is ideal for the 6.5cm, 1/8 or 1/8.5 ?

3) What contour is ideal for a fluted 22-24" SS barrel for both field & range ?

4) What finish/process is best for blackening stainless steel ?

I know there will be more questions later, but for now I want to get a barrel on order.

Thanks for any input
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
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With such a short barrel, you would probably better off with the 6.5x55 Swede. Everything I have seen and read on the 6.5 creedmore has been using s 28 to 30 inch barrel. Just my .01 worth.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:13 AM
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The T/C Icon Precision Hunter has a 22 inch. ?
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:26 AM
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I talked with Hornady's Dave Emary and he said 22 inch.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:49 AM
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The creedmore is a short cartridge and anything more than 22" is a waste. I'd look at getting a Savage Action and sending it and the barrel to ROBAR for their excellent coatings of your choice. I would get nothing faster than a 1-8" twist and would even consider 1-7.5" if you were looking to shoot some very long VLD style bullets.
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:48 AM
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The creedmore is a short cartridge and anything more than 22" is a waste. I'd look at getting a Savage Action and sending it and the barrel to ROBAR for their excellent coatings of your choice. I would get nothing faster than a 1-8" twist and would even consider 1-7.5" if you were looking to shoot some very long VLD style bullets.
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I hate to bust your chops like this, but the Creedmoor has just as much case capacity as a 6.5x55, despite being .200" shorter, and will gain just as much velocity from a 26" barrel as the ol' Swede does. For the long-range shooting the OP specified, a longer barrel is far from being a waste, it would be quite useful.

Also, you state you would get nothing faster than a 1:8" twist...and then immediately suggest getting one that is 1:7.5" (which IS faster) for longer bullets.

In the comparison shown below, of match rifles in 260Rem. 6.5x47 Lapua and 6.5 Creedmoor, the author uses nothing less than a 25" barrel and the Creedmoor was 28" long. On the plus side, he also states the 6.5 Creedmoor does not offer any better performance than the 260Rem. but will probably be more popular on the competition circuit, due to better support from manufacturers than Remington has given its own creation.

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-s...creedmoor/?p=4
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^^ I would guess that he got 'faster' backwards on accident. My first thoughts were 1:8 or even 1:7.5 and nothing slower (not 1:9 or even 1:8.5, for example) because all the long range bullets (900m shots were mentioned in the OP) will want the ~140gr bullets which mean 1:8 at the slowest twist rate.

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Sorry, meant to say SLOWER than 1-8".
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Easiest thing to rebarrel is a Savage. Don't know about the availability of fluted barrels in that chambering, though.

Good luck and have fun with your project.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:30 AM
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What is you7r budget?
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i think that one of those dual port single shot savages would be perfect for what you are wanting... that is what i would use if it were my project.
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What is you7r budget?
I'm not rich. So none of the high dollar actions, probably a M700 or M70. Any suggestions ?

Also, I am looking at a Krieger barrel with 5R rifling, I know that Broughton has the 5C rifling. Are there any other barrel manufacturers with 5R (or similar) type rifling ?
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i think that one of those dual port single shot savages would be perfect for what you are wanting... that is what i would use if it were my project.
Not wanting a single shot.
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I'm not rich. So none of the high dollar actions, probably a M700 or M70. Any suggestions ?

Also, I am looking at a Krieger barrel with 5R rifling, I know that Broughton has the 5C rifling. Are there any other barrel manufacturers with 5R (or similar) type rifling ?
If you're not rich and just want a great-shooting rifle, would you be willing to look at a Savage? The Accutrigger is exceptional and if Savage has the reamer, they'll make the barrel in the cartridge you want, although I'm not sure about all the fluting stuff. I wouldn't bother with that, personally...for a target rifle, it's just aesthetics. I'd rather have a 20" long bull-barrel, for the extra rigidity and accuracy they offer, even though they don't balance or carry well. As long as I'm just hauling it back and forth to a bench, that's the way I'd go.
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:08 AM
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If you're not rich and just want a great-shooting rifle, would you be willing to look at a Savage? The Accutrigger is exceptional and if Savage has the reamer, they'll make the barrel in the cartridge you want, although I'm not sure about all the fluting stuff. I wouldn't bother with that, personally...for a target rifle, it's just aesthetics. I'd rather have a 20" long bull-barrel, for the extra rigidity and accuracy they offer, even though they don't balance or carry well. As long as I'm just hauling it back and forth to a bench, that's the way I'd go.
They do custom chambering ?

I have never been a big fan of Savage actions, but have heard and read they are accurate.

What do y'all think about the A-Bolt action ?
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They do custom chambering ?
I have never been a big fan of Savage actions, but have heard and read they are accurate.

What do y'all think about the A-Bolt action ?
Savage has a custom shop of sorts but I don't know about getting a 5R or 5C barrel from them. As far as I know those barrels are only available in cut rifling and Savage only uses button barrels. Would they use an outside barrel source? You could always ask them. If the girls in customer service don't know, they'll transfer you over to special order.
I like the A-bolt. Have shot several, owned one, no complaints.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:07 AM
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The A-bolt is awesome. I have a nunber of A bolts and they actually come pillar bedded from the factory. Your probem with using browning, is that if you want to change out the stock, you're rather limited on what you can do, and the same should be said for switching the barrels.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:13 PM
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Goose, Yes I am seeing this, I like the action but good stocks are hard to come by. It seems like everything is wrapped around the M700 action.
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Ruger does have the MKII Target, 28" stainless barrel, adjustable trigger, magazine, mine is a sweet shooter.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:32 PM
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I have and am still considering the MarkII, I have talk to my gunsmith about whacking the barrel back to 24 inches, but will be stuck with the laminated stock as there are not any good stocks out there for it. I also am wanting 5R or 5C rifling.
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