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Old 10-16-2010, 08:23 AM
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what is the barrel life on a hammer forged 300wsm barrel if i almost always let the barrel cool in between shots, and i always clean my barrel after shooting it? i hear its around 1200 rounds but i gotta believe that if the barrel never gets hot and its kept clean it will last longer than that. i know some of you guys on here have alot of experience so i look forward to hearing from you guys. thanks in advance.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:40 AM
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There are so many things that enter into a particular firearm's barrel life that no one is going to provide a definite answer for you.

Shooting slowly and not overheating the barrel is good. Proper cleaning is good. These practices should help extend the life as compared to someone who doesn't do the same.

Next, it depends on how hot the cartridges are loaded, with what type of powder/bullet and how much unburned powder it blown down the bore to scour it.

You might want to keep careful records of such things to track what's going on. A borescopes use periodically will help. There's a 6mm/284 in my collection that supposedly is a real barrel burner (oversize case capacity for small caliber) and isn't supposed to last more than the aforementioned 1500 shots. My records indicate the present box of 50 will account for 980 shots when consumed. Using the Hawkeye borescope, damage is minimal so far and limited to the throat. The barrel was made with a 27 1/2" length so that when the throat is damaged excessively it can be rechambered by removing another inch or so from the shank. Knowing the bore won't last as long as say, a .243 Win, pre planning is required.
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:26 AM
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1200 rounds is quite a bit of shooting, especially for a "big" gun like the 300WSM. I reload and shoot quite alot, depending on my available time (life has us doing so many other things). For a reloader, you have that rifle sighted in, knowing what loads it likes and which ones it loves, for every bullet weight you'll shoot, after about 200 to 300 rounds. Mmm....well, maybe 300 - 400 rounds. Now what? Hunt and kill 700-800 elk and deer and ram?

I'm going to go out on a limb here, Dave, and I think it's a pretty strong limb: Whn you pass that rifle on to the next generation at the end of your shooting days, it's going to have the original barrel on it with plenty of accurate life left in it.
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:04 PM
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Barrel life is subjective, it greatly depends on the load, letting the barrel cool, and excessive/improper cleaning. For benchrest accuracy your barrel may be reaching the point where it might need to be set back soon, only your groups will tell you for sure. For hunting accuracy you may never wear the barrel out. Personally I don't worry about barrel life even in my supposed "barrel burners" for what I spend in handloading the ammo, a barrel is not all that expensive.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:58 AM
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More than once i've watched shooters empty a box of ammo in a 30 minute session. Complain that the ammo is no good, and empty another brand in the next 30 minute session. Often they are shooting various magnums.

I'd be surprised if a barrel would sustain even 1000rds like that, as I find that my 7mm Mag, or even .243, get pretty toasty on a hot day, even firing slowly.

At one point, I had a 7mm Mag for everything, and I even used it for PA/NY groundhogs, and I used it on prairie dogs on a couple western deer/antelope hunts. At 2700 rds, it lost it's touch, and rifling was pretty shabby for the first couple inches. I didn't abuse it, (too much), but I did go through couple hundred rds of 100gr Sierra loaded for 500yd shots at sod poodles, on those trips.

If you pass on trying out every bullet and powder combo you can think up, and avoid blazing away at prairie dogs a hundred rounds a day, it should last a lifetime.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:48 PM
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i like to target shoot. so hunting isnt the only thing i will be doing with this gun. i wonder how much winchester would charge for another factory barrel? anyone ever price factoy barrels before?
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:24 PM
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I am so glad I read this thread before going out and wasting a 100 rounds. I did not know barrel life would be under 2000 rounds. I think I am going to practice with something else.
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what would be the best caliber to use for target shooting that doesnt burn out barrels, yet can still shoot flat out to 400yds?
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Old 10-17-2010, 02:45 PM
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30-06, 25-06, 22-250......etc. etc.

Dave, I like target shooting too, that's why I posted what I did. I suppose you could do it (shoot 1200+ rounds) in a couple of years, but it'll be a task with that 300WSM. I mean, it's not such a super "magnum" that it's scary, rather it's a healthy little round with substantial recoil and muzzle blast. Once you get it dialed in, even if you're a reloader, you might start to wonder what you're doing out there at the range punishing your shoulder. You know, once the "honeymoon" wears off. If you're not a reloader, two things will feel the pain: your shoulder and your wallet (big time in the wallet).

OK anyway, a couple hundred and fifty for a new barrel and a little more for a gunsmith, and now you're at least ten years older. I'm sticking by my earlier prediction - you'll hand it down with the original barrel on it ((( )))
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You could have Winchester rebarrel it with a good barrel or have a gunsmith install a great barrel for about the same amount of money.
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i like the "magnum" cartidges. so i guess if i have 3-4 guns in different magnum cartridges and take turns hunting with them and shooting at the range with them ill never have anything to worry about. i havent made my mind up for sure but i think the 4 cartidges i want are 223wssm, 257 wthrby mag, 300wsm, and possible a 338wm. i havent made my mind up on the 338 though. i read that the 223wssm is a kick *** little cartridge. i think it was a my barnes book that says it outdistances the 22-250 and the 220 swift.
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Dave, I was going to mention that - the idea that you'll want more guns and end up "spreading the shooting around" a little. I mean, the 300WSM is not exactly a "target" gun, even though we like to get out there and shoot tiny groups over and over. That "little" round is better at killing deer and elk, etc.

My 30-06 will shoot 180gr bullets at about 2700 or 2750...pushing it. By contrast, the 300WSM will shoot them at 3000fps. Heck, I think it shoots 200grain bullets as fast as the 30-06 does 180grain bullets!

Better by far is to take up reloading. It'll cost more because you'll shoot more. See, I look at reloading and shooting as two completely seperate hobbies. They almost having nothing to do with one another, in my mind. So, for me, shooting my reloads is free, it's reloading them that costs
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:16 PM
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The 300WSM is indeed a good target caliber, look at some of the 1000 yard guns.
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I wouldn't get much change out of $1000 I wouldn't think in Australia, for a top quality barrel to be fitted to a rifle that was shot out. If that's the case the case, I could add a dollar a shot to the cost of my reloads. I could buy a new rifle for more than the thousand dollars here instead, but it makes you think doesn't it! Burning the extra powder of a WSM, WSSM, WSSSSSSSSSSSSM and whatever else they might bring out in the future, for the "extras" the manufacturers claim, and I remind myself of why I was never interested in one

I don't think I'd be happy doing that, and I'm more than happy with what I have
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I think that almost all the "worries" about shooting out barrels are wishful thinking. Get what you want; shoot it as much as you want. If you ever actually burn out a barrel, get a new one and come on this forum and call me an idiot because I didn't think you ever would.

Have some fun, and stop worrying about extremely unlikely events.
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what would be the best caliber to use for target shooting that doesnt burn out barrels, yet can still shoot flat out to 400yds?
I'd 22

If you've already got the 300wsm, try and burn the barrel out as quickly as possible so you can get a 7wsm
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