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Old 09-02-2011, 10:26 AM
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7mm Mag Vs. .300 Win Mag?


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I know its a personal preference, but which one do you like for elk and deer and why?

also what are the pros, and cons for each?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:35 PM
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I know its a personal preference, but which one do you like for elk and deer and why?

also what are the pros, and cons for each?
I consider it a .270Win vs .30-06 debate with a little more starting velocity. Flip a coin.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:56 PM
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I consider it a .270Win vs .30-06 debate with a little more starting velocity. Flip a coin.
Can't argue with that! But, I'm sure we'll see some excellent reasons for the coin to land..... one way or ta other!!
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I agree with the idea that the differences are very slight. However, all the number differences fall on the side of the .300 Win in the end. So that's what I have.

I think if I was going in cold again, I would pick the .300 again. If I had a 7mm before I got the .300, or if the 7mm was cheaper to obtain, I would just skip the .300 altogether. There is absolutely no reason to own both.
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Old 09-02-2011, 04:41 PM
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.300 Win, hands-down, IMO. But that's just me. Never had any interest in the 7-Rem Mag at all.

If you're going to burn lots of powder and make lots of noise you might as well do it up right.

Had you said deer only, flip a coin. With elk in the mix, my opinion is go with the bigger of the two choices. The .300 is made for 200 grain bullets and generates a good bit more M.E. than the 7-Mag. May never make a difference. Then again it could.
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:29 PM
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Ohhhhh Noooo.

If I didn't already have both a 7mag and a 300RUM I might have something to put down.

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Old 09-02-2011, 07:34 PM
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I have neither, but wouldn't think twice about using either for deer or elk, with proper bullet selection. I'd say both are 'equal' out to 400 yards considering sectional density and velocity (the 300 has approx 100 fps advantage over the 7mm in 175/180 gr bullet weights, but the 300 with poorer SD). A regular hunting partner uses the 7 RM with 175's on deer and elk with great success. The rest of us use 6.5-06's, 30-06's. 8mm RM's, and 338 WM's for both animals. Match a good bullet construction with SD and velocity, and you can do a lot, no matter the caliber, within reason, of course.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:11 AM
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I prefer the 7 RM, but only because I have one and don't have a 300 (relatively recent purchase, really good deal - long story). On the other hand, the scorecard for my 243 has way more of both deer and elk than the 7 RM, but the longest shot for game I've ever taken was about 150 yd.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:05 AM
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I have both so my choice is BOTH-then I have to decide what to take each day of hunting season,my 7mm or 300,what to do!!
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:25 AM
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I have both so my choice is BOTH-then I have to decide what to take each day of hunting season,my 7mm or 300,what to do!!
See, that's why I said you should never own both. Oh, the humanity of it!

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Old 09-03-2011, 11:12 AM
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Six in one hand and a half dozen in the other. I'd go with the 300 Win just because there are some heavier .308 cal bullets out there if you decide to experiment a little in the future.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:01 PM
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Bought a 300 Win when I was 13 years old and it has been my go to rifle ever since.So I never had much use for it's little sister.
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Old 09-04-2011, 06:50 AM
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I owned both at one time. I loaded both with heavy bullets. It used to be you could find 190 bullets for the 7mm but any more you have to settle for 175 grain bullets as the heavweight. In the end I kept the 7mm because it was a lot easier to shoot accurately and unless you need to shoot a large angry bear the bullet selection for 7mm is more than adequate. Even then ... if I were going after large bears I would have something bigger than a 30 cal rifle just for the peace of mind.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:18 PM
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I have owned, shot and hunted with both. I would say that within the realm and distance of 95% of hunting experiences, both calibers are equal. When you get into the extremes of each of the cartridges performance, then you will start to see the .300 take the lead. But I think that with the way that the .300 comes out ahead of the 7mm, if you're wanting more power, why not go up to the .30-378? or the .340 WB? or the .338-378WB? or.... So it is what you want, and can shoot, along with good bullet selection. Both the .30 and .284 calibers have outstanding bullet selection, with the .308 caliber coming out a bit ahead. I still have my 7mm, and my most used hunting load are Nosler 160gn accubonds at about 3000fps, and with those numbers, I can set my 100yd p.o.i. at 2.5" high, I am zeroed at 250, and about 4" low at 325ft, still traveling at around 2375fps. Plenty of oomph for me, considering I don't like to shoot out past the 250yd mark. I find I can easily sneak closer than that distance, being in western and eastern washington.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:19 PM
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I'd not argue either for animal X. Hunting aside, I prefer 7mms because of the high-bc, high-velocity bullets that are more friendly for long range target shooting. Even the hunting bullets frequently have superior BCs, without the weight that slows them down.
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I started as with a 30-06 as my rifle for a good while as a pup.
then I went to the 7RM for everything, including Varmits for years, college years mainly. Then I added a 220 Swift & that did me for awhile.
But later, as many gun nuts did, I started using alot of rifles, I no longer use a 7RM, went to 25-06 & 264, 270, 308 etc. for smaller big game & 300WM for the upper end of what I used the 7RM for in the past. I do like the 338's alot. I am a spoiled rotten gunnut now, but truth be known I could hunt everything from Varmits to all of the NA game if I had to with a 223 & 300WM or by adding only a 416 all animals in the World, with the 223 doing all Varmit work & 300WM doing 90% of the rest, but who wants to do that!

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Old 09-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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I just bought my first bolt gun yesterday after 20 years of shooting and hunting with lever guns. I was looking for a .30-06 but wound up getting a 7mm remington mag. I was real hesitant as I'm not a big magnum fan. Well today I just shot off a box of 150g remington core-lokt ammo. I got sub 1 inch groups consistently. The recoil was a lot less than I expected. I'd say I think the biggest consideration is recoil. Both are very adequate for elk. For deer I'd rather non magnum like a .243, 7mm-08, .30-06, .270. One thing from what I have scene with both these caliber is ya better use a heavy constructed bullet. I've scene people shoot deer and hogs up close with ballistic tips and they make a mess at 25 yards. Most ballistic tips are ment for a lot longer range where the bullet has slowed down.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:36 PM
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I have a 300 wm so that's my choice. In the end the only difference is felt recoil when sighting in. I have killed lots of deer and a few elk and to this day i have yet to remember the recoil because of the adrenaline. They both will kill the same.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:15 PM
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I know its a personal preference, but which one do you like for elk and deer and why?

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Add them both together and you would have a 338wm...
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:55 PM
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+1 7mm RM Just because I had to draw the line some where. Will kill anything that needs killin'. Though I would need to study up on whale anatomy but I think I could kill one of those too.
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