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Old 06-21-2007, 10:34 PM
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I just bought a brick of CCI LR Velocitors to shoot in my Winchester 63. I fired 50 rounds without incident, but I have been advised by anther shooter that this ammo could damage my gun.

Anyone else using these? Results? Am I endangering my 60 year old Win63 by using this?

If it is not safe to shoot Velocitors in the Win63, would it be safe to use them in a modern Japanese-made Browning Semi-Auto 22? . . . . or the Browning BL22 lever action 22 ?

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Old 06-22-2007, 07:01 AM
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I wouldn't worry about the lever action. The autoloaders might get hammered up by the Velocitors. The old Hi-Standard target pistols didn't like high velocity ammo. On the other hand, a girl once brought the old family autoloader to our firearms safety class. It probably was 10 years past it's last lube job and wouldn't cycle whatever we had, probably Wildcats, for ammo. I had a box of Yellow Jackets in the truck and they cycled it.

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Old 06-22-2007, 11:58 AM
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If your 63 is an original Winchester, you really should stick to standard velocity ammo. You will probably also find it more accurate.
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:55 AM
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Although there are various warnings floating around concerning high-velocity .22 ammo in certain guns, they seem overly dire.

I have been shooting CCI Stingers for years in a 10/22 and a Ruger 22/45 with no ill effects.

Not saying problems could never occur.... blowback guns are in fact sensitive to ammo.... but with a .22 rimfire, a blown case is about the worst immediate problem (and you are wearing shooting glasses, correct?).

If the cases get thrown significantly farther, that might be cause for rigging up some sort of recoil buffer. But a box or two now and then shouldn't make things go to heck instantly. If you need the performance for a specific purpose, then sight in and use sparingly.

Hint, if a semi-auto will cycle CB Longs or shorts or any other low-powered ammo, it's probably best to not push it with high-powered stuff. If it stovepipes, then the recoil spring is probably OK for the faster stuff.

With my Marlin 39 or various bolt guns I'd never give it a second thought. If it will go in the chamber it'll be fine.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:07 AM
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Hint, if a semi-auto will cycle CB Longs or shorts or any other low-powered ammo, it's probably best to not push it with high-powered stuff. If it stovepipes, then the recoil spring is probably OK for the faster stuff.
MikeG -

Interesting observation. My Win63 stovepipes (frequently, in fact, probably half the time) on bulk-pack Federal LR ammo, but always functions perfectly with CCI Stingers, CCI Velocitors, and CCI MiniMags.

Thanks for the comments, guys.

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Old 07-22-2007, 05:46 AM
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The Velocitors averaged 1175 from my 5.5 inch S&W 22 auto. I dont think they have that much more pressure than a standard hig velocity 40 gr lr. Call CCI and see what they say about it. I do really like the Got Dot bullet. Seems to expand at any velocity.
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Old 07-22-2007, 09:12 AM
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i contacted ruger directly about a year ago to ask specificly about shooting velositors out of my '89 mark II. they advised me against shooting the velositors or stingers out of that pistol. they where designed before the velositors where on the market and are'nt set up for the harder blowback that the round will produce. over time they said they could not garantee that some sort of part failure wouldn't occur. anyway that was rugers responce to me on that particular firearm and ammo combination.
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:51 PM
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Biggest risk with the Stingers is trying to shoot them in a match chambered barrel. Some people have good luck with Stingers, but I find that I get better accuracy out of Mini-Mags and other slower loads out of several different 22s. I'll take the accuracy over the speed.

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Old 08-14-2007, 06:50 PM
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After some experience with shooting Velocitors in my Win-63 I am convinced that the gun is strong enough to handle the ammo; and I am willing to run the risk. This old gun cycles perfectly with the hotter loads.

My local distributor tells me that we can expect a dramatic increase in ammo costs in the coming 6 months (based on information he received from his suppliers), so I bought another 4 bricks.

I really like these Velocitors.

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Old 08-17-2007, 02:34 AM
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I have used CCI stingers and velociters through my model 2 brno.They shoot well.I have a model 60 winchester rifle that i have tried all sorts of ammo through.Even stingers.Only issue i have had is before i knew that stingers had a longer case, the projectile was engaging the rifleing of my brno.I was wondering why they were tight to chamber,then realised why when i saw rifleing on the projectile of an unfired round that had been chambered.Never had any other issues.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:48 AM
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The real problem with 22 cases that are longer than standard is when chambers are not cut for those longer cases such as competition chambers like the bentz chambered barrels often used in Ruger 10-22's as replacement barrels.

I shoot a CZ 452 and it has a tight chamber that will engrave the rifling on a stinger case if I use it in the gun. Upon firing this can act much like an obstruction and actually bulge a bore. It doesn't happen to often, but if you have a match chamber you might to stick to standard length cartridges.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:53 AM
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I have used Velocitors and Stingers in my Browning auto .22....and no problems at all. Mine is an old Belgian made model from 1964. Still shoots like new.
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