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08-13-2012, 07:02 AM
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Yep Larry, I'm with you.
The Winchester and Remingtion were the go to brands with the problem brands being the Western Auto and other store name brands.
Was always kind of partial to the yellow boxes, but there were simply no issues with the Rem & Winchester.
I hear or read little in the way of problems with the centerfire Remington lines, but the quality - lack there of - in the rimfire has to hurt the accros the board to some degree.
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08-13-2012, 08:07 PM
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Rem bulk = Many many misfires I have brick that I've been having trouble giving away and I can't bring myself to trow it away. I've had it for 4 years now.
CCI I've had good luck with
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08-14-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Crusty Ol'Coot
Yep Larry, I'm with you.
The Winchester and Remingtion were the go to brands with the problem brands being the Western Auto and other store name brands.
Was always kind of partial to the yellow boxes, but there were simply no issues with the Rem & Winchester.
I hear or read little in the way of problems with the centerfire Remington lines, but the quality - lack there of - in the rimfire has to hurt the accros the board to some degree.
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I remember Western Auto or Gambles sold (in the late 50s -- early 60s) little flat boxes that had maybe 25 or 30 cartridges in them. The box had a clear window in the side so you could see the ammo. Worst stuff I ever shot -- It kinda splattered if you hit anything solid with it and was very inaccurate. I can still "see" those boxes but can't remember what they called it.
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08-14-2012, 10:41 AM
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 Why would you keep ammo that doesn't work? Seems like paying to go see a bad movie again, assuming your time and peace of mind are worth something. Sounds like that ammo could be labeled, "The squirrels love us."
I am not real sure how you would safely get rid of a brick of bad ammo. I used to pull the bullets from misfires and pour out the powder, but I wouldn't want to do that with a brick. Might make for an exciting campfire experience.
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08-14-2012, 04:05 PM
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Greenhorn,
Interesting with the pop pop pop as the stuff cooks off. Could be a bit of danger with the small pieces of brass that might fly, but they don't go far.
I have some old shot shells, and old primers that were given to me. Have thought about a duck tape bundle and one well placed shot.
Now, if that doesn't give the BATF the shakes, don't know what would.
If kids did now what we used to do when kids, they'd all be in the slammers 
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08-14-2012, 04:14 PM
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I remember pulling the bullets out sticking fuses in then crimping with pliers. .22's were the gateway firecrackers. Then it was on to my Dad's magnum brass then those big jugs of powder. It's a wonder I'm still alive and have all my fingers.
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08-14-2012, 04:23 PM
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Yep, but it sure was fun cook'in off the blasting caps and old ammo we scrounged out of old shacks.
Surprising amount of power in a bunch of match heads packed into a brass case and then confined with whatever. Lead shavings worked well. Then cook off the stuff over a candle. In side a steel 55gal barrel worked great.
Found out that a 300 Weatherby case was really strong!
Big bang.
Never did get my fill of fire crackers before they were outlawed.
Maybe saved me from myself.
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08-15-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Greenhorn Dave
Yeah, I've never had great accuracy with Rem 22LR, except their 22 Subsonics in bolt rifles. I don't think they will cycle a semi-auto, but maybe . . . . I haven't tried them in a 22 revolver.
CCI Velocitors have been the best combo for hi-speed and accuracy in all 22s I've tried them in. They sure do explode an orange or grapefruit!!!!! About a 40 foot diameter spray of mist and color. A real crowd pleaser with both kids and adults -- here in Florida where we don't have to pay for oranges and the trees grow more than we can eat.
The Rem Subsonics are very effective on gray squirrels, and the Velocitors are always an instant one shot kill.
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i have a fully suppressed 10-22 and shoot rem subsonic all the time no problems cycling.
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08-16-2012, 05:57 AM
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Thanks gents for your thoughts!!!!!!! I guess what it boils down to is to try many and stick with what works best in your firearm.
Thanks again,
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And that is the bottom line. Every .22 has it's favorite ammo and with regular shooting it will tell you what it likes.
I have a 10-22 with 16" Clerke barrel and Hogue OM stock and it would shoot the Winchester Dynapoints into holes touching groups at 50yds with frequency. It has taken crows out to 120yds and could pick off apples on the backstop at 100 meters.
But then, Dyna's are no more and bulk ammo has doubled in price. I'm probably going back to Mini-Mags and start over.
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08-16-2012, 06:44 AM
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And that is the bottom line. Every .22 has it's favorite ammo and with regular shooting it will tell you what it likes.
I have a 10-22 with 16" Clerke barrel and Hogue OM stock and it would shoot the Winchester Dynapoints into holes touching groups at 50yds with frequency. It has taken crows out to 120yds and could pick off apples on the backstop at 100 meters.
But then, Dyna's are no more and bulk ammo has doubled in price. I'm probably going back to Mini-Mags and start over.
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My .22 mag would shoot patterns rather than groups with the Dynapoints, but shoots both Super Xs and Maxi-mags well.
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09-02-2012, 09:40 AM
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Never had a Remington misfire, but in two guns the Thunderbolts failed to eject. I think those use a lube that builds up in the guns and makes them "sticky". Needless to say, I don't use Thunderbolts anymore, but the other Remingtons have worked fine. I prefer Winchester Super X. The oft touted CCI doesn't shoot any better than anything else in my guns (worse than the Winchesters, actually), and costs more, so that's my 2 cents worth on that.
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09-05-2012, 12:14 PM
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Few days ago, father and son showed up at range we're members, each with new Ruger 10/22s, both equipped with nice Nikon 22 scopes and proceeded to zero their scopes and try them out. Their new rifles didn't seem to shoot as accurate as they expected and I eventually noticed they were shooting Remington Thunderbolt 22 LR ammo.
I will take a box of CCI Blazer down to them to try, leaving the box with them, while I returned to my bench to shoot. Gee, their rifles began to shoot more accurately.
Guess they fired several magazines of my Blazer ammo thru their Rugers before I returned to their bench to check on them and discuss 22 ammo. I had to bite my lip when one of them mentioned having bought 3000 rounds of Remington Thunderbolts when he purchased the Ruger.
For me, the CCI Blazers do pretty well in my 22 rifles when it comes to accuracy. No way I'll describe Blazers as match ammo, but recently a fellow shooter with a darn accurate/scoped 22 target type rifle will show up with well over 10 different kinds of 22 ammo to try in his rifle. I will supply him with CCI Blazers and Winchester Dynapoints (another 22 ammo I've had good results with) to try. Only the Eley Match, Wolf Match and one other match type ammo, whose name I don't recall, was more accurate in his rifle. The Dynapoints grouped a brand or two behind the Blazers.
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09-08-2012, 01:04 PM
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Regarding the CCI Blazers: I had never shot Blazers before this Summer, when I got a free brick of them. I was surprised.
I have an old Ruger Standard pistol with a Red Dot sight and, with the Blazers, it will drill a 2 1/2" spinner @ 25 yards, 10 times out of 10. Looking at the lead splats on the gong, they're nicely near the center.
Good shootin' ammo, even if it's a mite dirty. Nothing that won't wipe off!!!
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11-09-2012, 09:19 AM
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The same ammo will vary from year to year. I have some 7 year old 22 WMR Winchester Super-X FMJ ammo I use for small game hunting that will shoot < 1" group at 100 yards. I purchased some of the same this year and the new ammo prints 5" vertical strings at 100 yards. I wish I could return it to Olin since it's pretty useless for hunting.
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12-20-2012, 08:15 PM
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Concur with Unclenick on the CCI. I get best performance with the CCI solids.
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12-21-2012, 09:32 AM
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Even living just a short drive from the home of CCI, the Blazers have always had a good name.
The only thing that bothers me now is what will happen now that they are part of the same group of companies as Federal. Will the Blazer continue to be made the same way and on the same equipment and with the same level of quality at a really good price?
I for one hope so!
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12-21-2012, 10:35 AM
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I think some of the problem is just people like to knock the big guy.
I Unfortunately, I have to stock 4 different ammo brands for different 22 RF rifles, 'cause that is what each likes. And the group size really is very different. One rifle likes the bulk Rem golden hollow points. another only likes Blazer.
Often I see comments that Remington makes a cheaper line of 22s for the bulk market. If you ever worked in manufacturing is just isn't so. too tough to manage and change stuff. If anything people sell cheap stuff at a premium by calling it premium or giving it a fancy name, when it is just the standard. Like the Howa sold as a Weatherby!
Just my thoughts
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12-21-2012, 01:15 PM
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Could be correct to a point Harry.
However, was out with a friend for a shoot a year ago this past Summer. Shooting rimfire .22 and a bunch of other stuff up to and including the 45/70.
I had a bunch of .22 ammo along including a unopened bulk box of Remingtion which I had bought somewhere back along the line before I knew of the problems so many folk were having with the Rem rimfire ammo.
Well, that Remington fulfilled my worst dreams, so bad I just gave the box to my friend.
Nice guy that I am, afterall what are friends for, right?
The other brands will need to slip a long ways, or I will need to hear many glowing reports before I buy any more Rem rimfire products.
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12-23-2012, 04:15 AM
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These days, I tend to shoot CCI Mini Mags and W-W Super -X for accuracy and reliability. I have shot a lot of the Remington Golden Bullet loads over the years and have had no reliability issues (FTF) with them.They have not been as accurate as other makes, as I always seem to get a flyer or two. Maybe a little dirtier, but not much. I tend to stay away from the cheaper, bulk ammo form any of the ammo companies. Have had better results from Winchester bulk ammo than others. I know many people like Federal bulk ammo, but they have given me way more problems than Remington. Failures to feed and fire, lots of flyers. And this wasn't in just one gun, but a half dozen different guns. One exception is the Federal Auto Match, one hole groups with my Browning T-Bolt and CZ 452. And the Auto match are inexpensive bulk rounds. For a hyper velocity round the Remington Yellowjackets have been really accurate in several of my rifles.
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12-23-2012, 04:57 AM
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I used Remington .22s for 50 years. I was a brand snob. Then used a (half) box of .22 Target, and got 4 misfires. Perusing da net, I found I wasn't the only one having trouble with Remington .22s. I'm done with them.
Extreme reaction? How can you screw up a .22? Bad priming compound or failure to distribute around the rim. There's no excuse for screwing it up.
I have no problem with their centerfire ammo.
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